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[WAVING MY HANDS EXCITEDLY]--->I know it! I know it! Can I answer this question?

I am not using semantics. You said that new Jerusalem is the church. It is not PERIOD.

This is a event that will not happen UNTIL after Jesus' second coming.

That is correct. The pope is no longer a member of the "college" of cardinals. The structure of the rcc does not match the biblical structure of the 12.

Did I quote you accurately? It sure looks and reads like you said that New Jerusalem is the church. It is not.

You have to be more specific.

YES; it is. REVELATION 21:10And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and shewed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God,

YES; it is.

Dude--like --this statement is nothing more than a declarative statement of your unsubstantiated opinion. It is not evidence from the Scriptures as you were asked to provide.

NOPE! This is a real city where all believers will live for all of eternity; once time as we know it comes to an end. We will reside there forever with Jesus. It has nothing to do with the rcc.

I gave you the verse in Deuteronomy yesterday. The fact that you do not recognize the Scriptures as authoritative is your issue, not ours

How is your atheist going to believe that Jesus is the Messiah w/o the Gospel and w/o the Scriptures? Because you're pompous maximus says so? All you can do is show the atheist what he has to do for God. I can show the atheist what Jesus did for him. The only thing you will accomplish is to make...

So you will point them to a religion that protects and defends child molesters? So you will point them to a religion that gives shelter to "consecrated prests" that are in open rebellion against God in their homosexality? First question they will ask is why should I come here when I can steam...

DEUTERONOMY 12:32 What thing soever I command you, observe to do it: thou shalt not add thereto, nor diminish from it.

TRANSLATION: I do not know or care what the Gospel of Jesus Christ is.

You sound angry, bitter, and resentful about the fact that true Christians, that know what r 'ism teaches, try to point out the flaws in your false religion rather than acknowledge you as a brother and say that it is alright to believe what you want. I can tell you that it will not happen on CARM.

Church history shows that Constantine founded the rcc and that all the pagan priests rushed in with their favorite god to join it. It is funny that your pontifex maximus is a title of a pagan high priest. The pontifex maximus was not a real magistrate: he did not serve for a fixed period but...

Really? Who were the witnesses to this event? When and where did it happen? If the rcc had evidence that this event happened, they would have made it public and put an end to the protestant revolution once and for all. It didn't, so it can't. All of your words are worthless.

This is a claim that is backed by fact.

romishpopishorganist said: Yeah--heretics. You got it! I would rather be tried and found guilty of heresy before man than in front of Jesus at the Great White Throne.