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Of course. Which part of this scripture is hard for you to understand: Rom 9:22 What if God, desiring to show his wrath and to make known his power, has endured with much patience vessels of wrath prepared for destruction, Rom 9:23 in order to make known the riches of his glory for vessels...

Man does not receive Christ by the freedom of the will but by God. You skipped that part. Nothing in there that it is a faith that comes from the human will. In fact your premise contradicts Jesus. All of salvation is from God. To Him alone the glory. I cannot help that you despise giving God...

Nope. The Bible is clear that no one understands, or is born again by the will of man. So believe all you like, you will change your mind again soon. You are fickle after all. 1Co 1:18 For the word of the cross is folly to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power...

Believe what exactly? Must I believe you based on your clever speech? Your wisdom? How do you persuade people to believe? You know Mormons and JW's and other sects believe on the Lord Jesus. Where does their wisdom come from? Why did they choose to believe? People make all sorts of choices...

People can believe whatever they want. Just like you and other sects. It doesn't mean they have the truth that comes from God. It is nothing more than their opinion. No wonder they fall away. Fickle minded, changing their mind at every whim.

Nothing in there about someone choosing to believe in order to get themselves saved. All who have no root in them, choose what they want to believe on a whim. No revelation of truth that leads to repentance. Only a false sense. Just like those who claim to have spiritual discernment while they...

Nothing in there about them choosing to believe as the whim took them. You like those in the non Christian sects believe what you choose to believe. That is why you are wrong. You base it on your own will and perceived cleverness. 1Co 1:24 but to those who are called, both Jews and Greeks...

Are you saying every person that heard that message were saved? and: Act_17:32 Now when they heard of the resurrection of the dead, some mocked. But others said, “We will hear you again about this.” So what in you just makes you believe the gospel in order to get yourself saved?

Listen, its only 3 and a half minutes.

According to you they can believe and stop believing as the whim takes them. This is the case with all free will sects. Mormons, JW's etc. They all believe they made the right choice, just like you.

I can tell you that if you have an absolute conviction that [one] before being born again chose to believe and put their trust in God, then it was by the flesh and not by the Spirit. If that same person chooses not to believe what they believe anymore, then it is as it was originally, in the...

According to this ☝️Jesus is not the finisher of ones faith, and despite Him saying He will never leave you nor forsake you, He will at some point forsake you if you become really really bad. Oh, the power of the almighty human will!

In the real world, people understand things differently. Their biases play a big role. When God opens the mind and heart to understanding it bypasses the fallen self and becomes an absolute truth. You don't know this because you believe only according to your fallen biases evidenced by your...

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You are making a category error. Your claim is that the second group heard, understood and fell away. Jesus says those who hear, understand and believe produce fruit. So you are still contradicting Jesus by premising those who understand and believe with joy fall away.

What was his question Tom? Here is my answer: Rom 12:3 For by the grace given to me I say to everyone among you not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think, but to think with sober judgment, each according to the measure of faith that God has assigned. The measure of faith God...

I asked for an explanation of what irresistible faith is. How can I answer something that is not defined and I am not aware of the interlocutors premise/motive/deception. Here is my answer: Rom 12:3 For by the grace given to me I say to everyone among you not to think of himself more highly...

If you have the incorrect understanding, then your belief is incorrect. It is not difficult to comprehend except if you are merely interested in trolling. You can believe anything with an incorrect understanding of the Spiritual truth and think you are right. You display that here every day Tom.

Of course you can: Mat 13:22 As for what was sown among thorns, this is the one who hears the word, but the cares of the world and the deceitfulness of riches choke the word, and it proves unfruitful. Mat 13:23 As for what was sown on good soil, this is the one who hears the word and...

Dodging what? I asked what irresistible faith is? Do you receive a measure of faith or not Tom? I know that you think more of yourself than you ought to. You show it every day by your telling people they doge, don't understand are ignorant "duh" etc. etc.