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    No discussion?

    Thank you for what you believe is reproof towards me, but by contending with me in order to give reproof, and by the scripture, is that not Biblical? 1 Corinthians 11:18 For first of all, when ye come together in the church, I hear that there be divisions among you; and I partly believe it. 19...
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    Matthew 5:22 Refers to Hell On Earth

    That was not the point for him being still son. He came back thinking he will be accepted as a slave labor or a servant. That son thought his father would not consider him son so in that respect he was denying him as his father, right? But he was wrong. He is still son, albeit, he gave up...
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    Matthew 5:22 Refers to Hell On Earth

    Just because you say Jesus can no longer refer to Gehenna as a reference to that garbage dump on earth outside the city of Jerusalem any more to imply a judgment on earth that will be a greater Gehenna?? Unfortunately, you cannot support your theology by the scripture when you ignore scripture...
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    Matthew 5:22 Refers to Hell On Earth

    Jesus is talking about that born again of the Spirit moment when a sinner comes to & believes in Jesus Christ. Try reading a bit further to see what Jesus said about the future event that is coming unless you refer to continue taking scriptures out of context and ignore other scripture that...
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    No discussion?

    Looks that way. Contentions presented, but you seem to have taken offense for it to be considered an argument. Because of their commitment which is not Biblical for how we are to serve Him. That was the contention that started it all. You made the comment of Methodist and another body as...
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    Matthew 5:22 Refers to Hell On Earth

    Now it is gone, but at the time of Jesus had lived, Gehenna was there. Don't you think the hearers back then was applying that to mean a future Gehenna on earth, one bigger than the one they are familiar with outside Jerusalem?? If New Jerusalem is in Heaven before it comes down to earth for...
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    Matthew 5:22 Refers to Hell On Earth

    Anyone presently living in sin can be seen as turning their backs on Jesus. But since a brother can repent, then God recovered him from the snare of the devil, but that is only if He is peradventuring. That does not mean the brother was never saved, but He will excommunicate the unrepentant...
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    Matthew 5:22 Refers to Hell On Earth

    I have come to learn that Gehenna never was a reference to the lake of fire. It only meant a place of judgment on earth. As for sheol being eden. in the other world, Paradise aka Abraham's bosom was beneath the earth & across the great gulf from hell but since His resurrection and ascension to...
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    Matthew 5:22 Refers to Hell On Earth

    That is not what I am reading plainly, sir. The first 10 verses is about the victory of God avenging the blood of His saints on earth as happening after Chapter 18. There is the Marriage Supper of the Lamb as mentioned in these verses below. Revelation 19:7 Let us be glad and rejoice, and...
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    Question #6: Is It Necessary To Believe In Trinity To Be Saved?

    Try proving what you just said by telling me what else this means when Christians that do not repent are cast into the coming great tribulation. Revelation 2: 21 And I gave her space to repent of her fornication; and she repented not. 22 Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit...
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    Matthew 5:22 Refers to Hell On Earth

    When Paul addressed that brother that was a fornicator, he did not judge him as not a brother, but he was judged to be excommunicated for not repenting. This same person was let back in by the church at Corinth after repenting which Paul addressed in several place regarding his approval for the...
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    Matthew 5:22 Refers to Hell On Earth

    Have you read Revelation 19th chapter? They are having the Marriage Supper of the Lamb as explained in the first 10 verses after rejoicing in Heaven for God avenging the blood of saints on Babylon mentioned in the prior chapter. Then afterwards, starting in verse 11, is when He comes back as...
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    Why OSAS Is True

    I believe He still abides in former believers for why they are still called to depart from iniquity to avoid being left behind in becoming cursed as vessels unto dishonor in His House but still in His House as the least in the kingdom of heaven in serving the King of kings on earth after the...
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    No discussion?

    Maybe it is because we are like 2 ships passing through the night or maybe you are failing to see the state of the churches now in the latter days. I believe I understand your point of view and where you are coming from, but scripture is supposed to be your guide in proving all things with Him...
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    Matthew 5:22 Refers to Hell On Earth

    No. I am contending that Matthew 5:22-26 cannot be the lake of fire if Jesus is equating the punishment akin to a prison where there is a coming out when the debt is paid when there is no coming out of the lake of fire. So that Gehenna has to be a similar reference to a place on earth but on a...
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    Question #6: Is It Necessary To Believe In Trinity To Be Saved?

    Hope you are willing for a small Bible study. Revelation 14 If you note the event of the fall of Babylon in Revelation 18th chapter is what the 2nd angel is heralding about in Revelation 14:8 and that second angel is one of the 3 angels that do their thing after the rapture event in...
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    Question #6: Is It Necessary To Believe In Trinity To Be Saved?

    Greeting TrevorL I noticed how you skipped over the scripture in Isaiah. Kind of hard for you to explain them away. Thanks for sharing anyway, but it is obvious you cannot align your theology with all the scriptures for why you are not rightly dividing the word of truth..
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    Matthew 5:22 Refers to Hell On Earth

    Feel free to share. I know the firstfruits are like the angels that never die and those resurrected after the great tribulation has to eat from the tree of life. Not quite the same as firstfruits, but in the end when death is thrown in the lake of fire, no one can die any more nor sin against...
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    Matthew 5:22 Refers to Hell On Earth

    I agree.
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    Nobody truly believes that "The Bible means exactly what it says."

    Yet you added one more thing to that debate below? Sacrament is making something more than what it is. Its origin is by the RCC as means to obtain salvation by. To prove all things and abstain from all appearances of evil, the word needs to be dropped because any Catholic visiting a...
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