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    Dog chases ambulance as it takes it's owner to the hospital.

    I completely spaced out the post afterward. Thanks for the reminder. People can learn about loyalty from a dog. :cool:
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    How could there be light on day one when the sun is not created until day four?

    Yet, in Genesis 2:7 the Hebrew word translated in English as "became" is the Hebrew transliterated word "hay" ( חַי ). In contrast, the word in Genesis 1:2 is the English word that is translated as "was", and this is the Hebrew word ( הָיָ֑תָה ) transliterated as "haya". The context of 2...
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    How could there be light on day one when the sun is not created until day four?

    No. In context, Genesis 1:2 is depicting the earth before continents emerged. From my notes: Why were the Hebrew words tohu and bohu translated as "formless and void"? :unsure: It was developed through a historical chain of translation starting with the Septuagint. Broadly characterized...
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    How could there be light on day one when the sun is not created until day four?

    Even more for this time period, English translations require verb tense but biblical Hebrew doesn't have verb tense in its grammatical structure. Translation takes additional skill and time because biblical Hebrew had a much smaller vocabulary for communication. For instance, Strong's...
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    How could there be light on day one when the sun is not created until day four?

    Yes, it means what was said using English. ( of course ) Using the KJV we read: "In the beginning God created the heaven and the Earth. Using the YLT we read: "In the beginning of God's preparing the heavens and Earth --" Using the HNV we read: "In the beginning God created the...
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    How could there be light on day one when the sun is not created until day four?

    A agree. The numbers of verses were not put in until a later time in history. However, anyone writing in Hebrew wrote from right to left. Although there are three common methods that are used to interpret Genesis One, two of them are considered the most common interpretation techniques to...
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    How could there be light on day one when the sun is not created until day four?

    I have a quick unrelated to the topic question that you may be able to help me with. Why is the Hebrew word for Egypt ( מִצְרַ֫יִם ) always in dual form? ______
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    How could there be light on day one when the sun is not created until day four?

    The context of the discussion here is the question: Is Genesis 1:1 a summary that describes creation starting with Genesis 1:2, or is it an event like the other events described in God's creation of the heavens and the earth? As you can see, this has nothing to do with Jerome or James...
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    How could there be light on day one when the sun is not created until day four?

    Crowcross ( an ardent young-earth-creationist ) who is another poster here at CARM, would probably agree with this point-of-view. _____
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    How could there be light on day one when the sun is not created until day four?

    As you may have noticed throughout this thread, the standard church tradition that Moses penned the initial five books of the Bible ( the Torah ) is essentially abandoned in academic circles and even among some conservative Old Testament scholars. I trust Jesus. Here is an example from...
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    How could there be light on day one when the sun is not created until day four?

    A new scroll artifact where Psalm 90 was discovered and dated older than the rest of the collection would be interesting. ______
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    How could there be light on day one when the sun is not created until day four?

    Hi rossh - Indeed. God is capable of doing anything. He decided to reveal himself to people ranging from ancient times past - to human cultures throughout the world today using the books of the Bible. One reason celestial objects were provided was stated in Genesis 1:14: "And God said, Let...
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    How could there be light on day one when the sun is not created until day four?

    Spurious? I don't think so. The author, whoever he was, attributed "a prayer of Moses" is based on historic information that is relevant to a Jewish audience. Also the phrase "a man of God" is attributed to OT prophets up to and including Moses (Joshua 14:6). After all, the passage repeats...
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    How could there be light on day one when the sun is not created until day four?

    Although the Mosaic ascription isn't accepted, at the outset Psalm 90 is in fact titled "A prayer of Moses, the Man of God", and it is uniquely designated so by the Psalter. Notably, the individual called Moses is mentioned throughout the whole of book IV ( Psalm 99:6, 103:7, 105:26; 106:16,23...
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    How could there be light on day one when the sun is not created until day four?

    Psalm 90 ( A prayer of Moses, the man of God. ) The oldest Psalm verse 2 Before the mountains were born, before you gave birth to the earth and the world, from eternity to eternity, you are God. ....... I agree that the term "spacetime" as a unifying fabric of the universe was not a concept...
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    Dog chases ambulance as it takes it's owner to the hospital.

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    How could there be light on day one when the sun is not created until day four?

    Sure... Genesis 1:1 Was Genesis chapter one intended to be an account of the origins of matter and spacetime? If not, was matter and spacetime considered eternal according to cultural beliefs for the relevant time periods?
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    A New Space Observatory

    James Webb's power supply
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    How could there be light on day one when the sun is not created until day four?

    Let's say a person named Henry interprets Genesis 1:1 as a summary statement. Let's also say that Henry believes that everything in spacetime including spacetime itself is eternal like God. This idea seems plausible since it wasn't that long ago (the late 1800s) that physicists had reason to...
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    How could there be light on day one when the sun is not created until day four?

    Oh, I didn't know you could not read the text. That would make communication difficult. FYI: Appendix A in his book is identical to his 2017 paper. Abandonment wasn't within my boundary conditions for our debate. It may help if I simply showed that Poythress provided additional information in...
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