Search results

  1. N

    If God wanted people to become X, why not write the bible properly?

    If it's that ironic, then maybe it isn't true. Maybe you've misunderstood God's influence in the world.
  2. N

    If God wanted people to become X, why not write the bible properly?

    So, gnostic scipture? So, Quran? Book of Mormon?
  3. N

    If God wanted people to become X, why not write the bible properly?

    Revelation, too [16] I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.
  4. N

    If God wanted people to become X, why not write the bible properly?

    [19] We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts:
  5. N

    If God wanted people to become X, why not write the bible properly?

    But your assertion is that it was settled. Marcion and various Judaizers, plus the Muratorian Cannon, says it wasn't settled. Followed by numerous Gnostic cults. I'm sure I can find blemishes in orthodox Christianity that resemble pagan religions, such as a dying/resurrecting man, hades...
  6. N

    If God wanted people to become X, why not write the bible properly?

    I take it seriously enough to find I can't believe in any of it, and those who do, don't seem to be any different. The main problem is that there are other religions out there that also threaten me with hell, that I can't be bothered looking at. Jainism is quite bad, at least according to wikipedia.
  7. N

    If God wanted people to become X, why not write the bible properly?

    Good, because I like the bit where Jesus claims to be the morningstar, same as Isaiah 14.
  8. N

    If God wanted people to become X, why not write the bible properly?

    If settled in AD96, then why does Justin Martyr's first apology only have Matthew in it. (They say it has Luke, but I have scanned the text, and found only Matthean stuff. Still don't know what language he wrote in, and whether the New Advent Encylopedia is lying to me.)
  9. N

    If God wanted people to become X, why not write the bible properly?

    According to fundy Christians, the Bible is perfect for reproof and converting, and is proof of Jesus. If it's full of apparently contradictory things, then it's not written well, unless its God's intent to confuse people to truth, and lose all his converts, to Islam. However, what would I know...
  10. N

    If God wanted people to become X, why not write the bible properly?

    Is 2 Peter authentic? Sounds like one of those handy catch-all statements like all "scripture" is inspired, without stating which bits they could be. It allows you to append it to any group of fake books. Paul didn't know that John/Matthew/Revelation would be in the cannon, for example. I...
  11. N

    If God wanted people to become X, why not write the bible properly?

    As far as I know the cult of calvinism is built on Pharoah's hardened heart story, and is a minority view.
  12. N

    If God wanted people to become X, why not write the bible properly?

    Seriously, where did I say "snake"? It's an origin story for snakes, like Aboriginal dreamtime stories. People knockin on my door are JWs, and they don't believe in hell. >>God will not force anyone to believe him. It's people doing that, using scary stories. I wouldn't mind if God told me...
  13. N

    Russell's Criticisms of Christianity & Jesus

    When I read the end of Matthew, it looks like Jesus resurrected, simply to prove he could do the big miracle. The centurion says it [54] Now when the centurion, and they that were with him, watching Jesus, saw the earthquake, and those things that were done, they feared greatly, saying, Truly...
  14. N

    If God wanted people to become X, why not write the bible properly?

    That was a tragic reply, and missed the point that you were not supposed to defend the confusion in the Bible. only answer whether people were being confused by it, and whether you would prefer a book that was written not to confuse people. The points I made were well known items of confusion...
  15. N

    If God wanted people to become X, why not write the bible properly?

    Us, really. The Bible is supposed to convince us of stuff. If it gets everything wrong (in our eyes) then it's not going to be accepted. This is what I read in Genesis 1:2-8. God parted the waters and made blue sky from water, with an ethereal "good" backlight. This ethereal backlight then got...
  16. N

    Atheists illustrate a Bible verse

    Yers, it's a kind of unwritten rule that you can't go personal. And if you did have any doubts that Jesus Christ rose from the dead, your church tells you that you that you will burn in hell for eternity, so it would be wise to not admit it in print. Let me ask you something personal. Matthew...
  17. N

    Atheists illustrate a Bible verse

    I acknowledge the limitations of arguing stuff, when the only stuff we have to argue is the Bible, when all other evidence has been deleted by Christian guardianship of history. I also acknowledge that we are limited to avoiding personal stuff, and we can't get an honest answer from you, about...
  18. N

    If God wanted people to become X, why not write the bible properly?

    (I wrote X to keep the title shorter. X=Jewish/Christian) Christians do a lot of leg work, trying to convince people that the Bible is true, but so many things work against them. Maybe it's not God's intention for people to be convinced by it. During a lot of tedious arguments, atheists may...
  19. N

    Do we need de-de-conversion therapy for atheists?

    I was never a Christian enough to count as one who deconverted. I believed in god, the same way as Santa, ghosts and Uri Gellar, when I was 6-8. I remember some Christians who drove a combi van, attempting to convince me, when I was 8, using biscuit bribes. Their whole demeanor just seemed...
  20. N

    thanks

    thanks
Top