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    Did Jesus pay a REAL price or a FAKE price for sin?

    Thats kinda the point, the countless of people who died and bodies turned to dust, which is nothing like the One whose flesh never saw corruption. I never said the Spirit remains in every persons flesh when they die, only in Jesus. God was manifest in flesh. In His body dwells the fullness of...
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    Did Jesus pay a REAL price or a FAKE price for sin?

    Three days is how long He was dead in our view. A thousand years (to us) is only one day (to Him). He was resurrected after three days with His flesh having seen no corruption.
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    Did Jesus pay a REAL price or a FAKE price for sin?

    How long was Jesus dead, in God's view?
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    Did Jesus pay a REAL price or a FAKE price for sin?

    To raise it of course.
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    Did Jesus pay a REAL price or a FAKE price for sin?

    I agree. This conversation is a spinoff that sought to determine whether or not Jesus gave up the Holy Spirit when He "gave up the ghost". fltom's position seems to be that he thinks it is at lease possible, because he believes that the Holy Spirit dwells within our spirit, which of course I...
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    Did Jesus pay a REAL price or a FAKE price for sin?

    The bible says that our body/flesh is the temple of the Holy Spirit, specifically saying our heart is where He sent His Spirit. Our spirit is not the problem. Jesus said the spirit indeed is willing, but the flesh is weak (Matt 26:41). In sin our spirit is led by our flesh and its lusts. His...
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    Did Jesus pay a REAL price or a FAKE price for sin?

    But that doesnt answer the question. You quoted a theologian who says the Spirit resides within our spirit, but all Ez 36 is let us know we get a new spirit. If I gave you a new car, I wouldnt necessarily need to take back your old one, or place the new one inside the old one. The only thing...
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    Did Jesus pay a REAL price or a FAKE price for sin?

    It is certainly plausible, yes. But thats my issue with theologians, sometimes they stray away from scripture and replace the absolute with the plausible. And everyone that follows and studies them now think its acceptable to do the same. 1 Cor 6:19 What? know ye not that your body is the...
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    Did Jesus pay a REAL price or a FAKE price for sin?

    I see that, but it doesn’t really answer the question. Your source says the Spirit dwells within our spirit. These verses say within us, not within our spirit. That seems to support the verse which says the body is the temple of the Holy Spirit.
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    Did Jesus pay a REAL price or a FAKE price for sin?

    2 things.... 1) The theologians say that the Holy Spirit resides within our spirit. This article says the Spirit of God joins with our spirit. "Resides within" and "joins with" are two astoundingly different things. I can accept "joins with", I completely reject "resides within". 2) This...
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    Did Jesus pay a REAL price or a FAKE price for sin?

    I see. And in this verse, where is the heart in relation to the spirit? Is the spirit in the heart (or vice versa)? Are they adjacent? The same thing? Something different altogether? I ask because I don’t see how, as that theologian said, our spirit is where the Holy Spirit dwells. Ez 36...
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    Anti-Gospel Wolves Accursed by Paul

    You are slightly moving the goalposts. You initially said there is no hope for sinners under the law, but the bible clearly shoots that notion down at Luke 1:6. They were under the law and righteous in the sight of God. I never made a faith vs works argument, only that the bible proves there...
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    The smitten Shepherd

    I didnt divert anything. I said yes he is saved here. Every example you gave is a person saved. Dont falsely accuse me of something and then ask me the same thing I directly answered the first time you asked. Thats......odd. Ok great.
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    Did Jesus pay a REAL price or a FAKE price for sin?

    Not the physical organ. Physical body being the temple, yes. It does. So why do you (or they) say its the spirit? Do they teach the heart and the spirit is the same thing?
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    The smitten Shepherd

    He was being sarcastic.
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    The smitten Shepherd

    What about it? The bible says baptism now saves you. I mean our suffering used by God for our eternal benefit, in the 1 Cor 4:17 sense.
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    The smitten Shepherd

    Neither of these arguments were made by me. The thief accomplished nearly everything related to salvation in the NT. Belief in Christ and the resurrection, confession, crucified with Christ, baptized/suffered, seeing ones own sins.....you name it. He did not work for those things, and while...
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    Did Jesus pay a REAL price or a FAKE price for sin?

    I thought that verse spoke most directly to what is said in those books, but more to your point now about where in the body, I would say the heart.
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    The smitten Shepherd

    The thief on the cross is the ultimate fulfillment of baptism now saves you. Jesus said ye shall indeed drink of the cup that I drink of; and with the baptism that I am baptized withal shall ye be baptized (Mark 10:39). He is calling His own suffering a "baptism", and the thief is being...
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