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    Explicit Proof That Jesus Is God.

    I generally will not go to things much outside of the Bible but in this case and for your sake, God led me to do it and I would suggest that you go to this link below and read what is said about Isaiah 9:6...
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    Explicit Proof That Jesus Is God.

    That is why it is not referring to the actual child born unto Israel but rather it was spoken of his God and Everlasting Father and of whom the child that was born would be the wonderful councilor of and which is why this was probably never quoted as referring to Jesus in the NT either because...
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    John 1:1- Abused for 2,000 years!

    I claim only what Jesus himself and also Paul claimed, that in order to understand the truth of God from the scriptures, one has to have the scriptures revealed to them in their hearts by the Holy Spirit and therefore all that the true believers can do, is to sow and water the seed of the truth...
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    Explicit Proof That Jesus Is God.

    Sorry but the words are "elohim gabor" and not Yahweh God and they can also be translated as "mighty ruler" but besides this, none of the inspired writers of the NT even used this passage to be referring to Jesus anyhow and probably because the Holy Spirit determined that it would be misleading...
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    Explicit Proof That Jesus Is God.

    And that was my point, for when you try to say that Jesus is God only because the same Greek word for the worship of God as being God, is also used for Jesus as being the Lord and Christ that God made him to be over us, you are in error about that. For the same words are used for worship of...
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    John 1:1- Abused for 2,000 years!

    Except that is not what it means for the Father to be in the Son and the Son to be in the Father, for the same words are actually used of the saints also. Again Bonnie, did flesh and blood reveal that unto you, or did you get that the correct way, by receiving from that same Rock of Revelation...
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    Explicit Proof That Jesus Is God.

    Sorry but the same word is one of main words used for worship unto God.
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    Explicit Proof That Jesus Is God.

    As Biblically illiterate as you probably are, I will be that you don't know that Joseph and David was worshipped and the scriptures use the same Hebrew word for worship as it commonly used of God to speak of it, but they were worshiped as rulers and it was common back then and neither David or...
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    Explicit Proof That Jesus Is God.

    Show me from the word of God that when Jesus was with his disciples all of them addressed him as their Lord and God and have fun trying to prove that one also. While you are at it, show me from the book of Acts, where any of his disciples ever actually preached or taught that Jesus was God or...
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    John 1:1- Abused for 2,000 years!

    Bonnie was or was not the Father dwelling within Jesus in all of his fullness and did or did not Jesus teach his disciples this? Was or was not Jesus the man, the mediator between God and man? Jesus showed himself to Thomas not because Thomas doubted that Jesus was God, but rather because...
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    Explicit Proof That Jesus Is God.

    The fact is that if Jesus broke the Sabbath or claimed to be God or equal unto God, that would make him a sinner, but he never did. As far the commandments of God and the Sabbath, the same law that forbad work on the Sabbath, gave instruction to the Priests to do the work of the Temple on the...
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    Explicit Proof That Jesus Is God.

    Here is something to add to what I said in my other reply. When in the OT God called himself the only savior and Lord or Rock, he was not comparing himself with his own human or angelic agencies by which he worked like Moses or Joshua but rather he was comparing himself with the heathen false...
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    Explicit Proof That Jesus Is God.

    Wrong, there is only one Yahweh God who is the one who created all other agencies through which he saves his people but he has always used other agencies either human or angelic to save his people through and in this way he his the Savior above all others. However Jesus is the man with the...
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    Explicit Proof That Jesus Is God.

    LOL, your not really attempting to point out the multitude of my errors but what you are really doing is attempting to convince yourself that your doctrine is really correct and you are never going to get there either. For remember I have already been where you are having been a Trin myself for...
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    Explicit Proof That Jesus Is God.

    LOL, your not really attempting to point out the multitude of my errors but what you are really doing is attempting to convince yourself that your doctrine is correct. For remember I have already been where you are having been a Trin myself for better than 30 years and had to keep doing that...
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    Explicit Proof That Jesus Is God.

    You have gone past ever having anything to say that can refute the truth and you are also boring as well and therefore I am finished with answering to your ranting and raving. Concerning the bold in red above, John couldn't very well have agreed with the Jews being the Jews didn't have any...
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    John 1:1- Abused for 2,000 years!

    And as I have said, the fact that Thomas was speaking to Jesus is irrelevant, being that Jesus clearly taught him that the Father was also dwelling within him and John is giving a narrative of what he saw Thomas do and therefore being Thomas was looking at Jesus, John wrote that he spoke it to...
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    John 1:1- Abused for 2,000 years!

    First I think you need to know that I was a trinitarian myself for better than thirty years after my radical conversion and new birth to God through Christ Jesus and I do mean a radical trinitarians also. For I was a Sunday School teacher over the singles in my church and if anyone came in...
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    John 1:1- Abused for 2,000 years!

    No he wasn't but rather he was answering to the Jews after they twisted his words "your Father Abraham rejoiced to SEE MY DAY (IN A VISION) and saw it and was glad" when they said "you are not yet fifty years old and yet you have seen Abraham" and which wasn't what he said at all. So then, if...
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    John 1:1- Abused for 2,000 years!

    Indeed!
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