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    What is the salvific effect of today's Mass?

    What is the salvific effect of today's Mass? Communion with Christ. If you did not go to Mass today and did not partake of the Eucharist: How is your salvation affected? It isn't. The communion is part of an overall relationship that spans the period of our life on earth. A single moment...
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    What is the salvific effect of today's Mass?

    Your questions just don't make sense. You obviously envisage the Catholic Eucharist as something that is completely foreign to me. Maybe like a power outlet that when it is turned off drains 'salvation' away. Or maybe as a magic ritual of some sort. The Mass is a communion and a community...
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    What is the salvific effect of today's Mass?

    Draw from Scripture what you may. 1 Cor 11 27 Whoever, therefore, eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner will be answerable for the body and blood of the Lord. 28 Examine yourselves, and only then eat of the bread and drink of the cup. 29 For all who eat and drink...
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    What is the salvific effect of today's Mass?

    We go to Mass because Paul told us this... 1 Cor 11 23 For I received from the Lord what I also handed on to you, that the Lord Jesus on the night when he was betrayed took a loaf of bread, 24 and when he had given thanks, he broke it and said, “This is my body that is for[f] you. Do this in...
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    What is the salvific effect of today's Mass?

    The games began with the OP.
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    What is the salvific effect of today's Mass?

    If the passover lamb was slaughtered but they didn't bother to paint the lintels of their houses with its blood and consume it's flesh of remembrance... would there have been a passover at all?
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    What is the salvific effect of the Cross?

    Here is the original post where you quoted me...but failed to link to. ............................................................................................................... But it seems that Paul and the early Church itself put more emphasis on the Lords Supper than on the Cross in...
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    Pope tells theologians to consult ‘non-Catholics,’

    The Catechism is a resource for the era it serves. The death penalty doesn't serve the dignity of the human being today when there are non lethal ways of safeguarding the community. That is why it's deemed inadmissible. It's not out of the question that it might be necessary on some basis in...
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    Pope tells theologians to consult ‘non-Catholics,’

    You're addressing here something different to the civil sentence of capital punishment and it's purpose. We are all certainly going to die but civil authorities are not granted omniscience by Scripture and have to judge within the realm of 'the common good' for which they are responsible.
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    Pope tells theologians to consult ‘non-Catholics,’

    What are you quoting to mean 'never acceptable under any conditions'?
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    Pope tells theologians to consult ‘non-Catholics,’

    It isn't contradictory. Some may mistakenly have believed that the death penalty was commanded by God for retribution, but while punishment itself is commanded by God, particular sentences have to serve the common good. Hence the death penalty is both no longer necessary to safeguard the...
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    What is the salvific effect of the Cross?

    But Scripture doesn't teach such a linear understanding of the economy of salvation. The Council of Trent affirmed what Scripture actually teaches ie... "...Him God had proposed as a propitiator, through faith in His blood (Romans 3:256), for our sins, and not for our sins only, but also for...
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    Pope tells theologians to consult ‘non-Catholics,’

    This part has to be got across to those who don't quite trust the promise of Jesus that His Church by the power of the Holy Spirit, cannot err in matters of faith and morals. The Church shouldn't be afraid to hear from anyone, because the Magisterium will not adopt or teach anything that will...
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    What is the salvific effect of the Cross?

    Can you give us the bible verse you are trying to prove?
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    RC altar burned in Pearl River Louisiana

    Purging by fire is not just an OT thing. For example 2 Peter 3 describes Gods use of fire to destroy godless things.
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    Popular Protestant Youtuber converting to Catholicism

    The point at where ecumenical discussion about the papacy starts is not just with the appointment of the Rock (Matt 16 18) but with the structure of the Church described by Tradition and Scripture. The Council of Jerusalem (Acts 15) and the succession of a human authority recorded since the...
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    What is the salvific effect of the Cross?

    You seem to be very obsessed with this point. Yes all Catholics believe that Jesus died on the Cross thereby paying the price for our sins. But for us the Covenant is in the consummation of our intimate relationship with Him that makes it meaningful. "So Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I...
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    Roman Catholics Believe in 'Plenary Indulgences,' but . . .

    Are you a moderator or something? Carm rules No. 4. Do not discuss a forum poster on the discussion boards/messages/chat, and do not attempt to moderate a forum poster’s correct behaviors. Stick to the topic of discussion.
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    Roman Catholics Believe in 'Plenary Indulgences,' but . . .

    No my, my. I think you have taken it personally when I was addressing the substance of the post. He is assuming from the start that someone 'claiming' to have faith is somehow distinguishable from someone who has faith to explain James 2. Then says that works justify. But my question is how...
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    Roman Catholics Believe in 'Plenary Indulgences,' but . . .

    It's worded to mean nothing. It's benign and doesn't serve as any sort of positive inspiration. It doesn't explain what the point of criticising others faith serves? If faith and works are completely the work of God, wouldn't criticising others faith in fact be a slap in the face of our God...
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