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     The decline of American Christianity

    This one really got everyone's dander up, so maybe there is some unadmitted concern that a relationship in timing (not necessarily cause/effect) does exist ... and I'm quite familiar with the history of the KJV, it's translators and their educational/theological backgrounds, the methodology...
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     The decline of American Christianity

    You assume much ... You assume much ... I never said Christians "can't" think for themselves. And I'm quite familiar with formal/dynamic translational methods and which "versions" are thusly based. My implication was that the average churchgoer doesn't know/understand/care about the...
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     The decline of American Christianity

    So you would deny an increased moral decay/decline in the USA since the late 60's and 70's?
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     The decline of American Christianity

    I didn't "fall for" anything re: The Message because I know what it is and what it isn't. But the box says what it says and most folks simply assume that "The Bible in Contemporary Language" is in fact, a true Bible. I have little to no concern re: your formal education and never questioned...
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     The decline of American Christianity

    You proved my suspicion ... I raised a question, pointed out the coincidental timing, and asked if the members of this forum thought it could be related. Certainly I had and still have an opinion on the matter. I suspected the critical text crowd would see no relationship whatsoever, and you...
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     The decline of American Christianity

    Well actually, one of the marketing labels/covers for the "Message" literally says "The Bible in Contemporary Language" so there's that .... and the distinction between what a paraphrase is and what claims to be a "Bible" is I believe, intentionally blurred especially for the less educated. Go...
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     The decline of American Christianity

    Of course not ... but they do speak to the preservation of God's Word, a lack of willingness to hear/understand/obey what He says, the condemnation for those who alter His Word, and the falling away mentioned in previous posts. You asked, you received, you ignored the context.
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     The decline of American Christianity

    Reference the following: Psalm 12:6-7 Amos 8:11 Matthew 5:18 2 Thessalonians 2:2-12 1 Timothy 4:1 Revelation 22:18-19 Just to name a few ....
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     The decline of American Christianity

    I suspect all of the potential causes you mention are contributing factors ... I never implied that the proliferation of critical text translations was the primary cause, exacerbated by new "versions" ie; the "Message", the New Living Translation, and others of the worst ilk, but I do believe it...
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     The decline of American Christianity

    But have you considered the possibility? Certainly "many things happen after other events (even regularly) without being caused by them". It is rather obvious that the moral decay/decline in the United States really took off around the time that American Christians were more exposed to and...
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     The decline of American Christianity

    Maybe the "great falling away" INCLUDES the proliferation of modern and varying critical text translations, so-called "paraphrases", and other works that alter the Word of God? Multiple times throughout Scripture, OT Jews and NT Christians are warned not to tamper with God's Word, yet here we...
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     The decline of American Christianity

    The tone was not meant to be divisive, and certainly isn't any more so than the majority of the other posts in this forum. And I'm amused by the "disunity" reference as EVERY post in the KJVO section demonstrates a wide divide on this particular subject. It's my opinion that the decline of the...
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     The decline of American Christianity

    A quick google search indicates that the NASB was first published in 1971, followed by the NIV in 1978 with both becoming increasingly popular in the following years ... is it coincidental that the moral decay/decline in American Christianity seems to have really begun snowballing downhill...
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