Ámbar dies day after deadly clot shot The 3-year-old sudden cardiac arrest.

[Bonnie]

I have no reason to doubt the truth of what you posted applies to your state. I also believe that there may be some sort of religious exemptions for groups like the Amish, who educate their children to the eighth-grade level.

But having been a part of the education systems in Pennsylvania, and New York, I do not know exactly the requirements, but here is what the official NY site stated: https://www.health.ny.gov/publications/2370.pdf

Diphtheria and Tetanus toxoid-containing vaccine and Pertussis vaccine (DTaP/DTP/Tdap/Td)2 ....4 doses

Tetanus and Diphtheria toxoid-containing vaccine and Pertussis vaccine adolescent booster (Tdap)3 not required

Polio vaccine (IPV/OPV)4 ..Depends on age 3-4 doses

Measles, Mumps and Rubella vaccine (MMR)5 1to 2 doses

Hepatitis B vaccine6 1 dose

Varicella (Chickenpox) vaccine 1 to 2 doses

Meningococcal conjugate vaccine (MenACWY) not required

Haemophilus influenzae type b conjugate vaccine (Hib) 1 to 4 doses prior to kindergarten, not required after first grade


Pneumococcal Conjugate vaccine (PCV)1 1 to 4 doses before kindergarten, not required afterwards

I am sure that if you did a web search as I did on "vaccines requirements for school aged children in YOUR STATE, i believe that you will find a similar list.

My point in disagreeing with one or two anti-vaxers here is that long before Covid 19 came around, my son, my daughter and me tested positive for tuberculosis. Our church was working with Hmong people from the rural high lands of Laos who were believers, and became refugees living in southwest Philadelphia

Because they were subsistence farmers, they had no knowledge of basic hygiene and health standards. Part of my role in helping them was to drive them home after church services. So, in a 15-passenger van, I packed up to 30 coughing children. Of course, the air was unhealthy with droplets from contaminated coughing children, and all three of were infected.

Because I was over the cut-off age for the curing medication, only my children got it. The vaccine for TB was available when I was born, but because TB is rare in the USA, I did not get that vaccine as a child.

That is my reason for taking the position I take on the Covid-19 vaccine. For several medical conditions I have, I am in the "extreme risk" category. Both my primary care physician and the specialist because treats my incurable disease and monitors it said if I want to live longer, said "Get the vaccines."

Some the anti vaxers advocate getting a vaccine that is used to treat worms in bovines as a viable substitute for the Covid-19 (Ivermectin) and I find that to be a laughable oxymoron situation because there is no science behind it.

Maybe if some of the "cow dewormer" could present peer-reviewed material on the efficacy of Ivermectin I might consider reading it. As It stands now, that proposed usage is simply medical quackery

The Amish, by and large, are not against vaccines, so far as I know, though it may depend upon how strict their bishops are.

 

[Authentic Nouveau]

There is TONS of proof Ivermectin works, no medical quackery at all. They demonize cheap, effective drugs because they can’t make money off of them. None of this is about your health, and the sooner you realize that the better off you’ll be. It’s ALL ABOUT the $$$.

Big Pharma "partners" with NIH. They use leverage to put up 400 million to develop a drug and have NIH put up 300 million. So they can get a 2 billion dollar patented WINNER. To NIH they don't demonize. They use advertising and media to demonize to the public.
That is tremendous leverage on the NIH.
Classic lobbyists bribe a little and wine and dine. This is more potent.

 

[Bonnie]

You are a discredited medical outsider.

Why is he discredited? Because he disagrees with you?

But you too are a medical outsider--although I will admit you spent an hour in a pathology department. As you have claimed.

Describe a typical day in a cardiology lab, an EP lab and a hospital morgue.

why?

None of your side has issues with the child dying from a toxic shot but have issues with us who discuss it.

Except you are writing about the type of shot the little girl got--the so-called "Clot shot" as you wrote in the subject line. But you got it wrong. It was not Astrazeneca, J and J, Pfizer, or Moderna--but an old fashioned, deactivated virus-based vaccine, which have been around since about 1888.

Speculation is rather useless, so it might be a good idea to wait for the autopsy results.

 

[Bonnie]

Clot is not a VACCINE.
Your sources are ignorant.

No one said a clot is a vaccine--did one?

The mRNA shots act like a vaccine in the body. So it is a distinction without any real differences.

This child got a Cinese-made deactivated virus vaccine against covid--a true vaccine, the type of which has been around for over a hundred years. Not the so-called "clot shot" as you so overdramatically describe the newer rMRA and adenovector vaccines--pardon me, "shots".

 

[Authentic Nouveau]

^^^appeal to emotion^^^


We don't tell people that, which I have no doubt you already know but felt the need for post that as if anyone did that.... but we also don't fear monger over a virus 99% of people survive.

Facts don't care about feelings....

So we have more fresh confirmation that the supposed PCR tests did not differentiate flu cases from covid.

 

[Authentic Nouveau]

More like 98%-99%. Try telling someone who has lost a loved one to covid--"But it has a 98-99% survival rate!"

How comforting that must be!

Appeal to emotion.^^^^^

How do you spend so much energy claiming adverse reaction cases are "inconclusive"?
How many dozens of posts have you planted claiming Ivermectin and other therapies success findings are "INCONCLUSIVE"???????

 

[John t]

Clot is not a VACCINE.

Whoever said that? You are simply making stuff up.

Your sources are ignorant.

I suppose you know more about immunology than the medical researchers with PhDs who have studied chicken pox, found the cures for polio, tetanus, typhoid pertussis, etc. Taking such a stance, and erroneously pontificating about it does not make a positive impression because it seems that you are simply taking the word of a wing nut conspiracy theorist web site and not bothering to research their so-called evidence for peer-reviewed proof.

 

[Bonnie]

Whoever said that? You are simply making stuff up.


I suppose you know more about immunology than the medical researchers with PhDs who have studied chicken pox, found the cures for polio, tetanus, typhoid pertussis, etc. Taking such a stance, and erroneously pontificating about it does not make a positive impression because it seems that you are simply taking the word of a wing nut conspiracy theorist web site and not bothering to research their so-called evidence for peer-reviewed proof.

Well. I never heard of a clot being a vaccine... Just joking...

I don't think you meant a cure for those diseases, but rather, preventatives for them.
But I do agree with you.

The covid mRNA vaccines are not, strictly speaking, vaccines in the classic sense, but the body reacts to them as it does to vaccines, so it is really a distinction without any difference. People who squabble over something so minor do so to take the focus off their feeble arguments.

My point on here is that this little girl was not given an mRNA vaccine or the J and J or Astrazeneca vaccines--aka, "clot" shots--but a dead virus vaccine--such vaccines have been around for over 100 years. So, not new technology at all.

So, I think it would be a good idea to wait until the autopsy report comes out--don't you? 🙂

 

[Bonnie]

Appeal to emotion.^^^^^

Appeal to facts. Try it, sometime.

How do you spend so much energy claiming adverse reaction cases are "inconclusive"?
How many dozens of posts have you planted claiming Ivermectin and other therapies success findings are "INCONCLUSIVE"???????

I don't claim they are inconclusive--the scientific studies I have cited HAVE. As far as I know, the results of the large, controlled study on ivermectin in Oxford, England is still continuing. When it is finished, and evaluated, it will show, once and for all, if ivermectin really helps, or not.

 

[4Him]

Whoever said that? You are simply making stuff up.

No, he is correct. It is not a vaccine, hence the reason they have changed the definition of 'vaccine'.

Vaccines prevent disease, these shots are gene therapy that prevent neither infection or transmission.

I suppose you know more about immunology than the medical researchers with PhDs who have studied chicken pox, found the cures for polio, tetanus, typhoid pertussis, etc.

You mean actual vaccines that work, compared to covid gene therapy that doesn't.

 

[John t]

A friend of mine has a child that has autism BECAUSE of vaccines.

That is sad.

With all due respect, it is a VERY HIGH BAR of evidence to determine causality of anything. At best, links may be established between certain risky behaviors and disease. Tobacco usage is an example.

Many cancers, such as lung and mouth can be linked to those who once used tobacco products; however, because not all of us who used tobacco products do not get those sorts of cancers, causality cannot be established.

You see, it is a matter of statistics and longitudinal studies to determine causality. and the technical term for it is "degree of probability". The degree of probability (also called degree of confidence" is expressed as a percentage that the event is likely to be repeated by using statistical analysis. The most common statistical degrees are 95% and 99%.

if you are looking at a normal distribution, also called a "bell curve" those numbers are in the right tail.

That your friend's child has autism after getting a shot, may be coincidental, or not but since autism is a neurological disorder because it affects the perceptive nerves in a person, it is a very large leap to state that a liquid serum given intramuscularly can be the cause of nerve damage.

More to the point the Autism society stated this about causation of autism:

There is no known single cause for autism spectrum disorder, but it is generally accepted that it is caused by abnormalities in brain structure or function. Brain scans show differences in the shape and structure of the brain in children with autism compared to in neurotypical children. Researchers do not know the exact cause of autism but are investigating a number of theories, including the links among heredity, genetics and medical problems.​

​

In many families, there appears to be a pattern of autism or related disabilities, further supporting the theory that the disorder has a genetic basis. While no one gene has been identified as causing autism, researchers are searching for irregular segments of genetic code that children with autism may have inherited. It also appears that some children are born with a susceptibility to autism, but researchers have not yet identified a single “trigger” that causes autism to develop.​

Causes - Autism Society.

Researchers do not know the exact causes of autism but are investigating a number of theories, including the links among heredity, genetics and medical problems.

www.autism-society.org

No, I am not arguing with you, but I am giving you (and others) reasons based upon science and statistical analysis why it is very difficult to link anything like a vaccine and a disease like autism.

However, if you do want to study causality and a disease, try to wrap your head around this.

Of the over 5000 cases of new ALS diagnosis (Lou Gehrig's Disease) roughly 2/3 of them are veterans. Considering that the number of civilians is far greater than those who served in the military, there is a strong proportional linkage between ALS and military service

 

[John t]

You mean actual vaccines that work, compared to covid gene therapy that doesn't.

I believe some may be confused about the difference between MESSENGER DNA and MITOCHONDRIAL DNA

Here is a part of an article from Wikipedia, and I chose that because it was not from Pfizer, J&J or Moderna, etc https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Messenger_RNA

Not to be confused with Mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA).

The "life cycle" of an mRNA in a eukaryotic cell. RNA is transcribed in the nucleus; after processing, it is transported to the cytoplasm and translated by the ribosome. Finally, the mRNA is degraded.
In molecular biology, messenger ribonucleic acid (mRNA) is a single-stranded molecule of RNA that corresponds to the genetic sequence of a gene, and is read by a ribosome in the process of synthesizing a protein.

mRNA is created during the process of transcription, where an enzyme (RNA polymerase) converts the gene into primary transcript mRNA (also known as pre-mRNA). This pre-mRNA usually still contains introns, regions that will not go on to code for the final amino acid sequence. These are removed in the process of RNA splicing, leaving only exons, regions that will encode the protein. This exon sequence constitutes mature mRNA. Mature mRNA is then read by the ribosome, and, utilising amino acids carried by transfer RNA (tRNA), the ribosome creates the protein. This process is known as translation. All of these processes form part of the central dogma of molecular biology, which describes the flow of genetic information in a biological system.

 

[Bonnie]

I believe some may be confused about the difference between MESSENGER DNA and MITOCHONDRIAL DNA

Here is a part of an article from Wikipedia, and I chose that because it was not from Pfizer, J&J or Moderna, etc https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Messenger_RNA

Not to be confused with Mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA).

The "life cycle" of an mRNA in a eukaryotic cell. RNA is transcribed in the nucleus; after processing, it is transported to the cytoplasm and translated by the ribosome. Finally, the mRNA is degraded.
In molecular biology, messenger ribonucleic acid (mRNA) is a single-stranded molecule of RNA that corresponds to the genetic sequence of a gene, and is read by a ribosome in the process of synthesizing a protein.

mRNA is created during the process of transcription, where an enzyme (RNA polymerase) converts the gene into primary transcript mRNA (also known as pre-mRNA). This pre-mRNA usually still contains introns, regions that will not go on to code for the final amino acid sequence. These are removed in the process of RNA splicing, leaving only exons, regions that will encode the protein. This exon sequence constitutes mature mRNA. Mature mRNA is then read by the ribosome, and, utilising amino acids carried by transfer RNA (tRNA), the ribosome creates the protein. This process is known as translation. All of these processes form part of the central dogma of molecular biology, which describes the flow of genetic information in a biological system.

Good post, John. You are very thorough. To my knowledge, the mRNA vaccines are not the same thing as gene therapy.

What is Gene Therapy | Goals, Potential Risks, and Clinical Development

Learn more about the field of gene therapy, what its goals are, potential risks, and an example of how a gene therapy is developed.

www.thegenehome.com

 

[John t]

Good post, John. You are very thorough. To my knowledge, the mRNA vaccines are not the same thing as gene therapy.

What is Gene Therapy | Goals, Potential Risks, and Clinical Development

Learn more about the field of gene therapy, what its goals are, potential risks, and an example of how a gene therapy is developed.

www.thegenehome.com

Thanks for the compliment!

Because there is much confusion, and few facts, I wanted to post in an informational, non-adversarial manner. The wise will learn from it, but unfortunately, some will continue in their ignorance, nursing their uninformed, (possible paranoid) biases.

 

[4Him]

That is sad.

With all due respect, it is a VERY HIGH BAR of evidence to determine causality of anything. At best, links may be established between certain risky behaviors and disease. Tobacco usage is an example.

Many cancers, such as lung and mouth can be linked to those who once used tobacco products; however, because not all of us who used tobacco products do not get those sorts of cancers, causality cannot be established.

You see, it is a matter of statistics and longitudinal studies to determine causality. and the technical term for it is "degree of probability". The degree of probability (also called degree of confidence" is expressed as a percentage that the event is likely to be repeated by using statistical analysis. The most common statistical degrees are 95% and 99%.

if you are looking at a normal distribution, also called a "bell curve" those numbers are in the right tail.

That your friend's child has autism after getting a shot, may be coincidental, or not but since autism is a neurological disorder because it affects the perceptive nerves in a person, it is a very large leap to state that a liquid serum given intramuscularly can be the cause of nerve damage.

More to the point the Autism society stated this about causation of autism:

There is no known single cause for autism spectrum disorder, but it is generally accepted that it is caused by abnormalities in brain structure or function. Brain scans show differences in the shape and structure of the brain in children with autism compared to in neurotypical children. Researchers do not know the exact cause of autism but are investigating a number of theories, including the links among heredity, genetics and medical problems.​

​

In many families, there appears to be a pattern of autism or related disabilities, further supporting the theory that the disorder has a genetic basis. While no one gene has been identified as causing autism, researchers are searching for irregular segments of genetic code that children with autism may have inherited. It also appears that some children are born with a susceptibility to autism, but researchers have not yet identified a single “trigger” that causes autism to develop.​

Causes - Autism Society.

Researchers do not know the exact causes of autism but are investigating a number of theories, including the links among heredity, genetics and medical problems.

www.autism-society.org

No, I am not arguing with you, but I am giving you (and others) reasons based upon science and statistical analysis why it is very difficult to link anything like a vaccine and a disease like autism.

However, if you do want to study causality and a disease, try to wrap your head around this.

Of the over 5000 cases of new ALS diagnosis (Lou Gehrig's Disease) roughly 2/3 of them are veterans. Considering that the number of civilians is far greater than those who served in the military, there is a strong proportional linkage between ALS and military service

My friend has studied more than you or I ever can. Her child has autism because of childhood vaccines.

 

[4Him]

I believe some may be confused about the difference between MESSENGER DNA and MITOCHONDRIAL DNA

Here is a part of an article from Wikipedia, and I chose that because it was not from Pfizer, J&J or Moderna, etc https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Messenger_RNA

Not to be confused with Mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA).

The "life cycle" of an mRNA in a eukaryotic cell. RNA is transcribed in the nucleus; after processing, it is transported to the cytoplasm and translated by the ribosome. Finally, the mRNA is degraded.
In molecular biology, messenger ribonucleic acid (mRNA) is a single-stranded molecule of RNA that corresponds to the genetic sequence of a gene, and is read by a ribosome in the process of synthesizing a protein.

mRNA is created during the process of transcription, where an enzyme (RNA polymerase) converts the gene into primary transcript mRNA (also known as pre-mRNA). This pre-mRNA usually still contains introns, regions that will not go on to code for the final amino acid sequence. These are removed in the process of RNA splicing, leaving only exons, regions that will encode the protein. This exon sequence constitutes mature mRNA. Mature mRNA is then read by the ribosome, and, utilising amino acids carried by transfer RNA (tRNA), the ribosome creates the protein. This process is known as translation. All of these processes form part of the central dogma of molecular biology, which describes the flow of genetic information in a biological system.

I’m not confused and I don’t look to Wikipedia for any information.

 

[Steven Avery]

There is TONS of proof Ivermectin works, no medical quackery at all. They demonize cheap, effective drugs because they can’t make money off of them. None of this is about your health, and the sooner you realize that the better off you’ll be. It’s ALL ABOUT the $$$.

Also the EUA is dependent on the fiction of no effective treatments. Billons of dollars are at stake, so a portion of that is used to buy off the best journalists and politicians $ can buy.

 

[Steven Avery]

My friend has studied more than you or I ever can. Her child has autism because of childhood vaccines.

Many of us know of cases like this among close friends and families. Even without the internet assistance.

 

[Yakuda]

Was it honest posting a thread that claimed Fauci was a monster who tortured orphans with medical experiments--which turned out to be completely false? And not acknowledge the error?

Was it honest posting a thread that claimed Australia forced 24,000 teenagers to get covid vaccines without parental consent? Which also turned out to be 100% false? And not acknowledge the error?

Were these threads "seeking the truth"?

Was it honest to wear a mask for show? Was it honest for politicians to put mandates on people like masks and lockdowns and ignore them themselves?

 

[Authentic Nouveau]

The Amish, by and large, are not against vaccines, so far as I know, though it may depend upon how strict their bishops are.

Number one opposition is insurance. They seek medical care. They use midwives very often and do not very often have birth certificates.

Like when we traveled to Mexico as kids, the Mexicans accepted Baptismal certificates and birth certificates.