Exactly. That’s why they demonize cheap, effective drugs that have been around for ages and proven safe.
Ámbar dies day after deadly clot shot The 3-year-old sudden cardiac arrest.
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WOW!! You really missed the point on that reply!
Please read it again.
The point was not to use Wiki as an authority (which I am loathe to do), but to cite them as a neutral third party; not a part of Big Pharma. So, before you take issue with what I posted and pass it off as "poisoned resource" you need to independently verify that that their information is correct. I did that because I first looked at the Moiderna web site.
I do not want to appear to be cruel to you, your friend, nor to her autism spectrum child, but one or even 100 cases among the millions of dosages given does not rise to the degree of probability/assurance that establishes causality. If it were the case, then there would be a recall of the vaccine similar to a defect in an auto or salmonella in certain lettuce from a certain place.
Did you understand that there is a H U G E (but easily confused) difference between messenger RNA (mRNA) and mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA)? For one thing, they are different, having distinct purposes. RNA is not the same thing as DNA.
Here it is again. Please do not "blow it off" until you understand it:
The "life cycle" of an mRNA in a eukaryotic cell. RNA is transcribed in the nucleus; after processing, it is transported to the cytoplasm and translated by the ribosome. Finally, the mRNA is degraded.
In molecular biology, messenger ribonucleic acid (mRNA) is a single-stranded molecule of RNA that corresponds to the genetic sequence of a gene, and is read by a ribosome in the process of synthesizing a protein.
Perhaps your friend can explain it better, but as I understand it, it is analogous to taking the directions from your car's GPS and downloading it into a self-driving auto such as Google Maps use. Obeying all the road rules, the self-driving car gets you from point A to point B.
Insults are so "non-adversarial"....
Bonnie
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These have nothing to do with the threads I have seen on here from GP and Epoch Times that were lies and posted on here, as if they were the truth.
I understand just fine John. I promise I’ve studied this more than you ever have, without looking to Wikipedia. You reposting it doesn’t change anything. That you think it is a “neutral third party” tells me all I need to know.
Furion
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Wow
Are you confused?
Furion
Well-known member
Which part?
LOL
Anything that blows yo your argument has anything to do with the thread. Fascinating.
You cannot find in this thread anywhere I insulted a poster. Therefore, there is no truth in your sarcastic repeating and essentially twisting of my words.
I am posting facts from cited sources. Those disagreeing with what I post are for the most part quoting singular (but tragic) events or wingnut web sites having little credibility.
Of course, everyone is entitled to have differing opinions, but when we are dealing with something as serious as Covid-19 and its variants, I believe that science-based, peer-reviewed material should prevail over mere opinion based upon singular events.
Nevertheless, as a Christian, I know that God is neither "surprised nor intimidated" by Covid 19. Those who trust Him should heed the promise and implied warning of 2 Chronicles 7:14
, 14 then if my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and will pray and will seek my face and will turn from their evil ways, then I myself shall hear from the heavens and will forgive their sins and heal their land.
It is serious, folks, but it is not a time to play "Chicken Little".
Can you be so kind as to post peer reviewed evidence for this nefarious scheme?
There are 52 studies on the cheap, effective drugs they lied about. Look it up if you want to know the truth....or better yet, read "The Real Anthony Fauci" by RFK....all the info you could ever want, with citations are in there.
John t said:
Thanks for the compliment!
Because there is much confusion, and few facts, I wanted to post in an informational, non-adversarial manner. The wise will learn from it, but unfortunately, some will continue in their ignorance, nursing their uninformed, (possible paranoid) biases.
That's kind of an across the board insult of those that would disagree with you, which probably includes me. I'm neither ignorant, uninformed or paranoid.
You assume scientists can't be bought and studies can't be falsified.....100% of scientists agree with those funding them....and just look at the Lancet report of HCQ they had to retract because it was all a lie.....and just because you think a website is 'wingnut', how about you prove it is first.
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What does your so- called "science- based, peer- reviewed material" have to do with trusting God?
Son Of Saxon
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All of those Vaccines are not what's called Leaky vaccines notice the flu shot is not mandatory......the ones you list.... They all stop infection and transmission...none of them manipulate your Nucleus and ribosomes in Your cells. None of them were rushed out the door in a year, none of them entered "mandatory" phases ...Infact if you research your claims....they are actually optional if a parent gives reasons why they won't do it....even here in Ontario. edit
It also Varys between province and state ...for instance in Manitoba you only need two shots ..and you can decline and write a letter stating whyz and still have your child attend school.
Also the vaccine we are talking about doesn't stop infection, or spread....annnnnnd the vaccines you are talking about do....and do it for viruses that are life ending and debilitating. COVID has a 99%+ chance of survival and more so for kids.....
Try again
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Bonnie
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I can't do that, but I can show you that many of the studies on using ivermectin to treat civid had serious flaws in them:
Ivermectin: How false science created a Covid 'miracle' drug
Thousands worldwide have taken ivermectin to fight Covid. But what's the evidence?
www.bbc.com
For every study I read online that showed favorable results with ivermectin. I would find one where it gave no benefit, or the results were inconclusive.
There was the Together trial, where, if I remember right, ivermectin was found to be ineffective.
There is a large, randomized controlled study going on now in Oxford, England, the Principle Study, that should show, once and for all, if ivermectrin truly is efficacious in treating and preventing covid. It has been going on for 6 months. (I just found out recently that a similar large, controlled study is going on in this country, but I forgot what it is called. I think it is called Activ-6, but not sure.) It will be interesting to see the results, and it will be good finally to put the debate over it to rest.
Oh, wait, maybe this is the US trial:
Nation’s first ivermectin clinical trial now 50 percent enrolled
The Data Safety Monitoring Board’s first early futility and efficacy analysis gives the study the green light to continue MINNEAPOLIS/ST. PAUL (11/11/2021) — An ongoing COVID-19 clinical trial studying outpatient treatment with generic medications, including ivermectin, is now more than halfway...
As I have stated on here before, I think people with covid should have ivermectin available to use, if they are at home, and their doctors agree to prescribe it. It has few side effects at the proper dosage.
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Furion
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I don't like weasely insults.
If people want to insult then do so directly.
Acting like they don't insult is insufferable, just a denial of their guilt.
Bonnie
Super Member
How about when we who have chosen to get the covid vaccines are called "sheeple" by some who are against those vaccines? Is that not a "weasely" insult? Or is that okay?
I have also seen some of the more far-righists on here call some who disagree with them about some other things--like the Jan. 6 riot at the Capitol building--"sheeple." Is that also okay?
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