If Jesus is God, why was he working for another God and glorifying another God?
Jesus is not God, God does not have a God.Jesus is God, but the long-haired Metallica dude is not him.
Jesus is not God, God does not have a God.
John 20:17
Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.
If the Father is God and Jesus is God that is two Gods sir. Do you have two Gods sir?How should Jesus address the Father since the Father is God?
John 17Jesus said, "I and the Father are one". Can you also say the same without committing blasphemy?
The scripture does not say sir.God said, "Let US create man after OUR image..." Who are the other Creators?
That is not a name sir...Jesus said, "Before Abraham was, I AM". To whom does this name belong to -- "I AM"?
How many other Creator Gods would that be sir?Me: God said, "Let US create man after OUR image..." Who are the other Creators?
It does not say who God was speaking to sir, If I say to my 3-year-old grandson let us make a kite. What part of the kite is he making sir?Bible: Genesis 1:26 Then God said, "Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness;"
the post is still up sir...this is what I responded to sir...God said, "Let US create man after OUR image..." Who are the other Creators?Jehovah's Witnesses bible NWT: Genesis 1:26 Then God said: “Let us make man in our image, according to our likeness,"
You: The scripture does not say sir.
Where does the scripture say I lied sir?--
No need to address your other posts because the scriptures say you LIE, lol. If you can lie in one thing, how can you have truth in other things?
Yes, the verse is straight forward and simple. It does not say anything about other creators. So I say to my baby grandson let us go make some tea, he doesn't do anything. I make the tea. He is with me while I make the tea.I can understand that people can misunderstand or misinterpret a difficult verse. That's ok. But, this verse is straight forward and simple.
nope, I just posted scripture that shows that Jesus was in God his Father...You're just in denial and turn a blind eye because it doesn't agree with what your pastors/ministers teach you.
don't call me a liar.Dood, don't call me Sir. I cringe. ;'lk;lkwe;welkweg;lsd![]()
You are doing great on your ownCan you teach me how to become a good contortionist? Lol
The short sentence does not say "Jesus is God"Such a simple short sentence making so many contortions just to fit your false teachings taught by your pastors that Jesus is not God.
That does not say Jesus is God sir"Let US make man after OUR image and after OUR likeness".
That is not a valid argument against what I posted sir.Then you go to fantastic tumblings here and there and do a double summersault and do a split or two for your ending performance. Bravo! Lmao! It's the same style of arguement with a Muslim who does not believe that Jesus (Nabi Isa) is God.
Of course, I am not a liar, but that didn't stop you from posting these words ...."No need to address your other posts because the scriptures say you LIE, lol. If you can lie in one thing, how can you have truth in other things?"No, you're not a liar.
right back at you sir.Your false teachers are. But, if you perpetuate the lie, does that make you one? Perhaps not if you have done this out of innocent blindness ignorance. Otherwise, you are, grandpa. Congratulations.
That should tell you something.I see that this discussion will go nowhere. I've been through hundreds of this type of discussion ad nauseam.
I have been productive you have called me a liar then retracted your statement.Let us save time and quit while it's still at the early stages so we can do something productive.
In that verse, The Father is YHWH he calls the son Elohim, go do some research into the Hebrew text sirSee you and have a nice day!
A couple of verses before I leave this topic:
Hebrews 1:8 But to the Son He (God the Father) says: “Your throne, O God, is forever and ever; A scepter of righteousness is the scepter of Your kingdom.
You are using the scripture out of context sir. Paul was paraphrasing Psalms 102:24-25... Vs 24& 25 Would be the son (Jesus) speaking sir.Hebrews 1:10 He (God the Father) also says,
“In the beginning, Lord (God the Son), you laid the foundations of the earth,
and the heavens are the work of your hands.
Bye!!
But Metallica is awesome. Good point, though.Jesus is God, but the long-haired Metallica dude is not him.
No. I know you have heard about the doctrine of the Trinity. Here's your problem--confirmation bias. You only hear what you want if if agrees with your belief. Now, it may be possible that your belief is correct--but you don't care if it is or isn't. You'll support it to your dying day. Facts be damned, eh?If the Father is God and Jesus is God that is two Gods sir. Do you have two Gods sir?
Not from the scripture and believe me I looked..No. I know you have heard about the doctrine of the Trinity.
That is your problem sir...Here's your problem--confirmation bias.
I hear and agree with what the scripture says, sir... There is no mention of a trinity in the scripture sir.You only hear what you want if if agrees with your belief.
That is your opinion sir.Now, it may be possible that your belief is correct--but you don't care if it is or isn't.
I support the scripture sir. No mention of a trinity in the scripture sir.You'll support it to your dying day. Facts be damned, eh?
YepQuestions: have you ever questioned those who teach you?
The scripture sirIf so, what Standard do you use to check them?
I follow the scripture sir...there is no mention of a trinity in the scripture sirIf not, what Standard do you use to follow them unquestioningly?
Right back at you sir..I know you'll defend your "faith" and attack every word I put here.
what is wrong with being comfortable sir?Because you're comfortable.
I am comfortable questioning why the trinity is not mentioned in the scripture sirBecause you're not comfortable questioning things that make you uncomfortable.
Really sir...I don't see many people questioning the TrinityI know you. You are the masses who follow false prophets because you want your ears scratched.
I ask an even better question, sir, Why is there no mention of a trinity in the scripture.Chat away, dude. Or look in the mirror and ask one question: "Is Newbirth wrong?"
No need to ask that question, sir, I make no claims about what is not written in the scripture. I speak what is in the scripture...I know you won't do that.
that is because I don't make up stories.You never have and never will.
Yes I follow Jesus. he has rules for me to follow.You're so controllable.
But you can'tAll I have to do is make you afraid, upset, or stressed.
I already have one master sir, I follow Jesus...You won't question, you'll just agree and follow.
Nope I am not scared of the truth.That mirror is scary...isn't it?
No, you are notGlad to hear it?
It says the same thingThen read the Bible again.
Words have meaning you can't just put words in the scripture will nillyForget about what words we use.
The holy spirit is the spirit of God. It is the spirit in Jesus and the spirit in all believers.Just learn about the relationship between the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit.
The scripture does not say anything about a squished together God. It is not my problem that you think like a 7 year oldCall it the Trinity, the "squished together" God (my 7 year old daughter's words),
As are they who believe in God...what is your point.or that they're all on the same page
Who wrote what together? Did your son see them write something?--and they wrote it together, and never disagreed (my son's words).
I know that you don't care.I don't care.
I never said otherwise.God is not simple, nor is He like us (we are created in HIS image...not the other way around).
Where is that written in the scripture sir? here is what the scripture says....There is ONE God. Jesus is God. The Father is God. The Holy Spirit is God.
The verses do not say that Jesus is God...the verses say God sent his son JesusYou've read the scripture, you've seen the verses. You just say, "NUH UH!!!"
No, you don't because you are exposing your ignoranceFine.
I love that you challenge this doctrine.
I am echoing the scripture you are echoing false doctrine. Show the scripture where Jesus said these words..." I am God"You're not doing so because you want to know, though. You just echo, echo, echo.
You are welcome to learn the truth...Thanks for the chat!
Confirmation bias works both ways, doesn't it?No. I know you have heard about the doctrine of the Trinity. Here's your problem--confirmation bias. You only hear what you want if if agrees with your belief. Now, it may be possible that your belief is correct--but you don't care if it is or isn't. You'll support it to your dying day. Facts be damned, eh?
Questions: have you ever questioned those who teach you? If so, what Standard do you use to check them? If not, what Standard do you use to follow them unquestioningly?
I know you'll defend your "faith" and attack every word I put here. Because you're comfortable. Because you're not comfortable questioning things that make you uncomfortable. I know you. You are the masses who follow false prophets because you want your ears scratched. Chat away, dude. Or look in the mirror and ask one question: "Is Newbirth wrong?"
I know you won't do that. You never have and never will. You're so controllable. All I have to do is make you afraid, upset, or stressed. You won't question, you'll just agree and follow.
That mirror is scary...isn't it?
Wow. Head on the nail here. You get my point!Confirmation bias works both ways, doesn't it?
I don't see you being open to a contrary opinion. Have you questioned your teachers and standards, or just accepted them without a fight?
Nice to meet you.Wow. Head on the nail here. You get my point!
Yes, confirmation bias does work both ways.
Does it matter whether I have or have not? I thought you got my point, but now I'm doubting...
Good to meet you, by the way.
Make sure of what?Nice to meet you.
But are you as hard on yourself? And I quote. "I know you'll defend your "faith" and attack every word I put here. Because you're comfortable. Because you're not comfortable questioning things that make you uncomfortable. I know you. You are the masses who follow false prophets because you want your ears scratched. Chat away, dude. Or look in the mirror and ask one question: "Is Woody50 wrong?"
I just want to make sure.
No problem. I'm open to learning. I've changed my views many times throughout the years.Make sure of what?
I'm happy to tell you about my life. Wasn't really the point of my post, though. In my experience, those who say, "OH YEAH? What about YOU?" just avoid the OP, or the one to which they're responding.
You asked a great question: "Is Woody50 wrong?
Every time I "KNOW" I'm right, God usually shows me how wrong I am. What are you seeing in this instance?
How about you, by the way?
*Eric strokes his beard in thought to mock those who pretend to think*
Again, good to meet you. Please keep the questions up. I appreciate this.