15+ Dead In Texas School Shooting; 18-y.o. student Salvador Ramos Identified As Shooter

BMS

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You really have no idea what you are talking about. There is nothing "only" about subjective morality. People are still prepared to die, and to kill, to protect or promote their idea of what is right or wrong. Being subjective doesn't weaken morality at all.

What is more, those who abuse children or keep slaves are breaking the law. It is the law that hunts them down, tries, convicts and imprison them. If morality had any force outside the law, the British prime minister would have been a different person twelve months since.

Mostly our views on morality coincide, because we are all human and have a common humanity. Where our moral views differ, we will just have to manage. There is nothing special about your moral view, nor weak about mine, they are simply different. Get used to it, and step gingerly into the real world.
Well sex is a protected characteristic in law and its not only not being upheld but abused as shown.
Also the proponents of the woke gender identity are child abusing.
 

BMS

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Umm, e don't have a king. We haven't had a king with the ability to grant or remove tights for two hundred years. You may have noticed that there are forms of government other than monarchy. They too have the ability to grant or take away rights. Who granted women the right to vote? Who freed the slaves? Who granted gay people the right to marry their partner? It wasn't the king, and it wasn't God either.
Who is supporting conversion thereapy on gay and lesbians. In the name of trans

Get the right king and get the morals right
 

Eightcrackers

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You really have no idea what you are talking about. There is nothing "only" about subjective morality. People are still prepared to die, and to kill, to protect or promote their idea of what is right or wrong. Being subjective doesn't weaken morality at all.
If you think that something is immoral, and somebody somehow convinced you that you were "objectively" mistaken... what would happen?

Would you just say "well... I guess I have to think that rape is moral, now..."
How could anybody possibly do that?
 

Eightcrackers

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Or that raping little girls for fun is only subjectively wrong.
If I hold the opinion that it's wrong, and you think it is objectively wrong, what is the difference?

We are both against rape, aren't we?
We will both oppose it and uphold the mechanisms to prevent and punish it, won't we?
 

Yakuda

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If I hold the opinion that it's wrong, and you think it is objectively wrong, what is the difference?

We are both against rape, aren't we?
We will both oppose it and uphold the mechanisms to prevent and punish it, won't we?
No not the same at all. Why are leftists so intellectually lazy? Opinions change, facts don't. Your position says if enough people have the "opinion" that rape is ok then on what basis could you oppose that if morals are only a matter of "opinion"? Why can't people stand up these days and say rape is an objectively evil act? This opinion stuff is bullspit. So you dont see the problems with opinions being the basis for morals? Really????
 

sundance

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How many of those in the city and how many are open carry? I guarantee you, that shootings would go threw the roof!

Your guarantee is worthless.

Big cities are full of death and gun violence. The media refuses to publish anything where gun control is already in place and not working.

Im okay with that. In fact i'd be okay with multiple officers at every entrance. The problem is funding. The government likes to skim too much money to afford things like that.

Ohhh so it was the unlocked door, not his mental state of mind(note sarcasm). WEAK!

Anyone that would shot a child in a classroom setting is evil. Horribly evil. There is always more than one cause to most anything. You myopic view is inadequate and weak.
 

sundance

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I will school you on Scripture. Your interpretation is speculation and is NOT supported by the rest of Scripture. He wasn't testing the man. He was answering his question of how he(the rich man) can attain eternal life.

He never told another person those words. Not one. If what you say is true, then the Scripture would be filled with many references to the same demand. It is not. Your logic fails horribly. No one should attend your school.

Im sure the wolves in sheep's clothing that have infiltrated the Church would agree with your interpretation. Since they too would not give up most of their wealth.

What does that have to do with Jesus being a capitalist vs socialist? lol Try to stay on subject.

I corrected your mistake. You don't get to dictate my responses. Wolves are always trying to avoid their mistakes. Take a look in the mirror.
 

Temujin

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No not the same at all. Why are leftists so intellectually lazy? Opinions change, facts don't. Your position says if enough people have the "opinion" that rape is ok then on what basis could you oppose that if morals are only a matter of "opinion"? Why can't people stand up these days and say rape is an objectively evil act? This opinion stuff is bullspit. So you dont see the problems with opinions being the basis for morals? Really????
Opinions on morality change as well. Slavery is immoral? Tell that to the Athenians. We think it is now, but moral views have changed. Which is one of the reasons why we KNOW that it is subjective.
 

Backup

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How is that any different from your attempts at mind reading.
I’m not imagining sinister motivations.

I’m just predicting the disingenuous responses of people that can’t defend their position and have to rely on troll tactics.

My “predictions” always turn out to be true.

I’ve never “predicted” one of you would adjust your beliefs based on new information.
 
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