2020 election officials and Trump voters agree the election was stolen

When you appeared in court, did the judge give a reason for rejecting your testimony?
When you made this comment it was a certainty that someone was going to point out that it's predicated on a lie. @Harry Leggs did not suggest that he testified in this proceeding as your answer above presupposes, effectively lying.
 
The only credible evidence presented was your claim. What was it again?
What is this? Short attention span theater? The entire predicate for using this technology was so that images of every single ballot could be reviewed in a completely automated process without any difficulty whatsoever. Secondly, The only reason for not satisfying all parties that the election was held fairly by permitting a review of all of the ballot signature matches (which would resolve the issue beyond all dispute), is that the side that "won," believes that they didn't really win. Essentially, the "winners" are saying "we could prove it, but we just don't wanna!" Does that argument convince you, because it doesn't convince me.
Right! I've avoided looking at the thing I've quoted twice! Makes sense.
Actually, your post makes no sense whatsoever. This comment for example is both untrue and incoherent.
... sez the guy who's dismissed his own thread's premise.

:D
You might have more success if you tried responding to a thread requiring less intellectual rigor. Like being able to follow the line of a conversation for example.
 
The losers will keep claiming that the election was unfair, no matter how many times Trump and his supporters lose in court. They'll just further claim that the courts are unfair, even if the judges were appointed by Trump.
People make comments like this that make them look like an absolute fool, when they obviously have not listened to what was said in the video which addresses this point squarely. But don't let me dissuade you.Bbecause you looking like a fool, makes your political bankruptcy all the more transparent, making my job of persuasion to any open minded person that might stumble upon this thread all the easier.

Obviously, your comments aren't directed to anyone except the thoroughly brainwashed. So you really have no downside I suppose from your perspective.
 
There are signs that the election deniers are being punished...

Fox News paid Dominion $787.5 million

now impeached Attorney General of Texas Ken Paxton
, who is being sued by the Texas State Bar,

I thought of another excellent example. MyPillow owner Mike Lindell promised to pay $5 million to anyone who could disprove his claim that the 2020 election was stolen from Trump. Bob Zeidman did just that and was awarded $5 million by an arbitration panel.

Interestingly, Zeidman voted for Trump in both 2016 and 2020. On May 24th he published an interesting article where he describes in detail the process he followed to prove Lindell's data was nonsense. The explanation is slightly technical, so it helps if the reader has knowledge of such terms as hexadecimal and ASCII:

How I Won $5 Million From the MyPillow Guy and Saved Democracy
 
When you made this comment it was a certainty that someone was going to point out that it's predicated on a lie. @Harry Leggs did not suggest that he testified in this proceeding as your answer above presupposes, effectively lying.

Look at all these extra votes for Biden during the late nights and esp in Georgia when Repub watchers were sent home.

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Can we know this is true with absolute certainty? There's a way that it can be known. If meaningful signature matches we're permitted in Pennsylvania, Georgia and Arizona the answer would be that at least the election officials believe the election was on the up and up. Absent that, they believe that the election was stolen. We have not seen these meaningful signature matches permitted in any of the crucial states.

Conclusion: the election officials and Trump voters agree that the election was stolen. This inference is so strong as to almost be necessary. Robert Barnes makes this point poignantly in the video below at timestamp seven minutes.


Earlier in the video Barnes makes the point that the big selling feature in these election machines was that they make images of all the ballots so anybody can review them anytime they want! Great! What good does that do if you are prevented by the courts from doing so?

No one can say for certain that the election was stolen, but we have a near necessary inference that everybody agrees that it was.
Your side has attempted to make multiple claims of specific examples of fraud, none of which have held up and most of which have simple explanations.

But you are clearly not giving up! So the latest thing is lack of signature matches. Well, it seems to me this is the least accurate form of checking identities and the most subject to errors or deliberate mismatches.

Your claim that "everybody agrees" the election was stolen reflects the view of someone in a RW bubble.
 
Your side has attempted to make multiple claims of specific examples of fraud, none of which have held up and most of which have simple explanations.
None of the explanations would pass an audit. They would be red flags and evidence of vote fraud in any sane world. Of course you are an advocate for vote cheating and anti-democratic.
 
What is this? Short attention span theater? The entire predicate for using this technology was so that images of every single ballot could be reviewed in a completely automated process without any difficulty whatsoever. Secondly, The only reason for not satisfying all parties that the election was held fairly by permitting a review of all of the ballot signature matches (which would resolve the issue beyond all dispute), is that the side that "won," believes that they didn't really win. Essentially, the "winners" are saying "we could prove it, but we just don't wanna!" Does that ar
gument convince you, because it doesn't convince me.
What is this joke, do you not understand what a secret ballot is?

There is no signature on the ballot to be matched. When you vote you are handed a blank ballot, you fill it in in secret and then it is counted, by a person or machine, but neither one sees a signature to match.

Instead, what happens is you identify yourself to the poll worker, (me republican poll worker in NY) I confirm that your ID/signature matches the registration we have on file, then I give you a blank ballot and you take it to the booth and mark it.
 
What is this joke, do you not understand what a secret ballot is?

There is no signature on the ballot to be matched. When you vote you are handed a blank ballot, you fill it in in secret and then it is counted, by a person or machine, but neither one sees a signature to match.

Instead, what happens is you identify yourself to the poll worker, (me republican poll worker in NY) I confirm that your ID/signature matches the registration we have on file, then I give you a blank ballot and you take it to the booth and mark it.
Even with mail-in ballots. Although the envelope they arrive in requires a signature, once that is verified, the ballot is as anonymous as every other one.
If that's what they're looking to audit, good luck. Signature verification is pretty subjective.
 
Even with mail-in ballots. Although the envelope they arrive in requires a signature, once that is verified, the ballot is as anonymous as every other one.
If that's what they're looking to audit, good luck. Signature verification is pretty subjective.
No it is not. You simply do not know what you are talking about.
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At first, signatures on ballot envelopes had to have about fifteen points of similarity with comparison signatures on file.

Fried, Joseph. Debunked? (p. 118). Republic Book Publishers. Kindle Edition.
 
People make comments like this that make them look like an absolute fool, when they obviously have not listened to what was said in the video which addresses this point squarely. But don't let me dissuade you.Bbecause you looking like a fool, makes your political bankruptcy all the more transparent, making my job of persuasion to any open minded person that might stumble upon this thread all the easier.

Obviously, your comments aren't directed to anyone except the thoroughly brainwashed. So you really have no downside I suppose from your perspective.
You can find a video of someone saying just about anything you want to hear.

If you want to convince people, try using reputable sources.
 
Look at all these extra votes for Biden during the late nights and esp in Georgia when Repub watchers were sent home.

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I guess you are hoping that people will have forgotten that those "spikes" were when the tallies of absentee ballots were added. Democrats were much more likely than Republicans to take the pandemic seriously and vote absentee, so it's not surprising that those votes would break much more for Biden than for Trump
 
No it is not. You simply do not know what you are talking about.
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At first, signatures on ballot envelopes had to have about fifteen points of similarity with comparison signatures on file.

Fried, Joseph. Debunked? (p. 118). Republic Book Publishers. Kindle Edition.
If you are talking about points of similarity, you are talking about a subjective review of each point. Yes, it is a specialized field of study, but until the people signing became robotic in that signing, it remains subjective.
 
No it is not. You simply do not know what you are talking about.
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At first, signatures on ballot envelopes had to have about fifteen points of similarity with comparison signatures on file.

Fried, Joseph. Debunked? (p. 118). Republic Book Publishers. Kindle Edition.
One, Computer ID is still subjective, and if it is supposedly so much better, then why not use it for in person ID.
Two, and more importantly to the destruction of your wishes, evidence is that most signature mismatch rejections (97% in one study) were in fact not invalid voters, so if computer matching was in fact better, the differences in the mail in vs in person would have magnified Trump's loss, or it would only change the numbers to be cured.

Either way, this is not actually evidence of fraud, only that there might be a better way to do voter ID and most interestingly , it does not involve presentation of an extra ID card.
 
You can find a video of someone saying just about anything you want to hear.
Robert Barnes is not "somebody." He is a subject matter expert on A) election law, and B) this particular election as he worked on this exact case.
If you want to convince people, try using reputable sources.
Translation, I'm going to repeat this lie as long as the New York Times provides me cover. The New York Times has no reputation. They have lied about this from the beginning, and they continue to lie about it. And you mark yourself (and what you are) by advancing this argument.
 
What is this joke, do you not understand what a secret ballot is?
Obviously, you have not been conscious at any point since the 2020 election. Perhaps it would be better if you just went back to sleep, Rumpelstiltskin.
There is no signature on the ballot to be matched. When you vote you are handed a blank ballot, you fill it in in secret and then it is counted, by a person or machine, but neither one sees a signature to match.
We're talking about mail-in ballots. And there are two signatures. One on the envelope in which the ballot must be returned, and one in the voting rolls to which it must be agreed. If the signature on the envelope is not agreed to the signature on the voting rolls the ballot is invalid and cannot be counted.
Instead, what happens is you identify yourself to the poll worker, (me republican poll worker in NY) I confirm that your ID/signature matches the registration we have on file, then I give you a blank ballot and you take it to the booth and mark it.
Please, just go back to sleep. This is a discussion for people who are conscious.
 
I guess you are hoping that people will have forgotten that those "spikes" were when the tallies of absentee ballots were added. Democrats were much more likely than Republicans to take the pandemic seriously and vote absentee, so it's not surprising that those votes would break much more for Biden than for Trump
It is prima facie evidence of vote cheating until proven otherwise.
 
If the Democratic machine in Georgia was capable of perpetrating the kind of mass voter fraud that these conspiracy theories claim, then Stacey Abrams would definitely be their governor today. There's no way they would have let her lose twice to Brian Kemp if they had the ability to change the result.
 
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