50 years of climate predictions

[wiseones2cents]

The factors that made Britain the dominant world power in the 19th century, waned decades ago. T

Ya it was called WEALTH! It didn't "wane" they just moved their wealth to the USA

 

[Authentic Nouveau]

You have many opinions but no actual evidence.

Thousands will die.
Millions will be displaced.

Ok. You could make the same claim about wars.

Got anything else?

2007 an article published in Canadia predicted warming would release CH4 hydrates from the tundra and could kill 4.5 billion in 5 years.
No one died before the screed was published and no one died in 5 years.

WUWT posted it and gave us a laugh.

 

[wiseones2cents]

I enjoy history. Looking at how they shocked wheat, hauled it on horse drawn trailers and thrashed it in a steam powered thrashing machine.

High tech Mexicans (our German second cousins)

When I was a kid, I saw new John Deere tractors in Mexico. They could order them with steel wheels because of a lack of tire shops in the city.

Built in Germany because of high tariffs on imported machines from Iowa.

I enjoy history too. When EVERYONE owned their own land(except for the slaves), and grew their own food! And now less than 2% of the population are into farming and have a monopoly on the food industry.....

 

[wiseones2cents]

You still have not spent 50Cents and bought Samuelsons,Econ text book

I dont need to. I understand the global economic system is as crooked as Enron. Now that I find out you worked with Enron. It's starting to make sense.lol

 

[Temujin]

Fear merchandising

All the people born before the last century are DEAD. Duh!

And yet your religion relies on this not being true. Duh!

 

[Authentic Nouveau]

The problems with nuclear waste disposal have been solved and relatively speaking nuclear energy is cheap. And the Earth has a way of cleansing itself and on any relative scale fossil fuels is vastly cleaner than the energy it replaced.

Nuclear is energy intensive in construction. 85,000 cubic yards of concrete were placed in the base and containment structures. (10,000 truck loads) Natural gas fired ovens to dehydrate gypsum to make concrete. That includes the sand hauled for the mix.

 

[Temujin]

Ya it was called WEALTH! It didn't "wane" they just moved their wealth to the USA

Just how inane can you get? Where did the wealth come from? Britain had large hardwood forests for making ships, it's an island so no expensive standing army. Easily accessible coal, iron, wood and water to drive the industrial revolution. A perfect geographical location to exploit the slave trade and dominate world exploration and colonialism. A stable social structure, avoiding the fashion for revolution.. All these contributed to the building of the British Empire, and all you can say is "wealth".

 

[Authentic Nouveau]

All nonsense. Have you seen the cost of energy? lol It's not low!! Initially the cost of energy was low because there was no demand for it.

............ bringing engineering ignorance to the highest levels.

Our daughter has PhD in power systems. She is finishing an EE textbook. They calculate power costs on all projects.
Contractting engineers do cost studies all day long.' Every time 'renewable sources" are brought in, the costs go up.

You don't and can't

You guys dont know what your talking about.

Gaslighting^^^^

 

[Thistle]

I can say the same about you. What has increased wealth is the expansion of the money supply. Not cheap energy.lol

No, inflation is the expansion of the money supply. Production creates wealth and production is a function of automation which is a function of energy.

Is that why it's twice the amount in Europe?

It's twice the amount in Europe because we're insisting they boycott Russia.

Sorry. You dont know what your talking about.

If this statement makes your day, knock yourself out. I'm glad I could've brightened your mood even in the slightest degree. With what you would like to do with energy prices, you can use all the brightness you can possibly get.

 

[Backup]

2007 an article published in Canadia predicted warming would release CH4 hydrates from the tundra and could kill 4.5 billion in 5 years.
No one died before the screed was published and no one died in 5 years.

WUWT posted it and gave us a laugh.

“an article published in Canadia [sic]”

Like your girlfriend nobody met that lives in Canadia?

“kill 4.5 billion in 5 years.“ you say?

Here’s what I found:

“Debunked: The Methane Monster

Even though a couple of Russian scientists have pushed this fear of a methane ‘burp’ [or monster] – is it a distraction from that country’s massive methane emissions from natural gas production and pipelines?”

 

[Temujin]

............ bringing engineering ignorance to the highest levels.

Our daughter has PhD in power systems. She is finishing an EE textbook. They calculate power costs on all projects.
Contractting engineers do cost studies all day long.' Every time 'renewable sources" are brought in, the costs go up.

I don't believe you. This thread is not a vehicle for you to indulge in your outlandish fantasy life.

 

[wiseones2cents]

Just how inane can you get? Where did the wealth come from? Britain had large hardwood forests for making ships, it's an island so no expensive standing army. Easily accessible coal, iron, wood and water to drive the industrial revolution. A perfect geographical location to exploit the slave trade and dominate world exploration and colonialism. A stable social structure, avoiding the fashion for revolution.. All these contributed to the building of the British Empire, and all you can say is "wealth".

The wealth came from Britain pillaging resources from it's common wealth countries. Mostly Africa and the oil states! And of course wealth from the Roman Empire.....

I hear India alone paid billions if not trillions in taxes to Britain!

 

[wiseones2cents]

............ bringing engineering ignorance to the highest levels.

Our daughter has PhD in power systems. She is finishing an EE textbook. They calculate power costs on all projects.
Contractting engineers do cost studies all day long.' Every time 'renewable sources" are brought in, the costs go up.

You understand energy prices are based on what the capitalist can get away with charging(What the markets will bear), not what it's actually worth.

Every time new technology is introduced it's expensive(well above it's real value). That's capitalism.

 

[Authentic Nouveau]

No, inflation is the expansion of the money supply.

I did a few posts on large growth of M1 and M2 during covid lockdown. Aug 2020

Under Trump. It appeared to fuel housing starts and not consumer products. Bidensky has pulled all the right strings to convert that into hyper inflation.

 

[Authentic Nouveau]

I enjoy history too. When EVERYONE owned their own land(except for the slaves), and grew their own food! And now less than 2% of the population are into farming and have a monopoly on the food industry.....

You peddle socialism where gubment owns the means of production.
I doubt you will ever understand how the psychology of socialism hinder MOTIVATION

So I have pictures of harvestors 6 very large combines in a row cutting our wheat. The combines are 40 feet wide. Less labor required.

 

[Authentic Nouveau]

“an article published in Canadia [sic]”

Like your girlfriend nobody met that lives in Canadia?

“kill 4.5 billion in 5 years.“ you say?

Here’s what I found:

“Debunked: The Methane Monster

Even though a couple of Russian scientists have pushed this fear of a methane ‘burp’ [or monster] – is it a distraction from that country’s massive methane emissions from natural gas production and pipelines?”

Global warming psychos

Be careful today and tonight, billions may die

UPDATE: January 1st, 2012 – still here, no reports of mass deaths at the last minute. – Anthony Global warming may go on a last minute rampage. Maybe best to just stay at home and lock …

wattsupwiththat.com

Stupid idiots.

Global warming may go on a last minute rampage. Maybe best to just stay at home and lock your doors, bar your windows, and turn your air conditioner on. If you live near the coast, head for high ground. Deaths due to drinking and driving will be nothing compared to this.

This story appeared in The Canadian January 8th, 2007, it’s been a countdown example of stupidity ever since. Unbelievably, it is still on their website. Note today’s date.

/why does your side make such god aweful stupid predictions?

 

[Authentic Nouveau]

I don't believe you. This thread is not a vehicle for you to indulge in your outlandish fantasy life.

Watch the low achievers make claims. You're are famous for not gathering evidence.

By the way, our daughter in law teaches math at the University. She teaches math to aeronautical engineering Grad students. The building has a wind tunnel and those students for real deal with atmospheric modeling and airplane design.

You have no clue.'

So you are stuck with juvenile slander.

 

[wiseones2cents]

No, inflation is the expansion of the money supply. Production creates wealth and production is a function of automation which is a function of energy.

Again. You dont know what your talking about. You can't produce anything without money to pay for labor. That is unless you have slaves!

Also fiat money cannot be affected by inflation that is not tied to real value(Like Gold). Another way to increase money supply was to mine more gold and silver!

But if your currency is not fiat(like the US currency) and backed by debt that is backed by gold? Than yes. Inflation can play a part.

Also if you have less supply and more demand, that can also inflate prices.

I noticed more than 20+ years of "quantative easing" did not cause inflation in America(since it was used for corporate welfare). As soon as they gave free money to the public(covid relief), they needed to recuperate it, so they inflated the economy to get all the money back.

Also because there was less supply(due to the lockdowns and shutting down of manufacturing), which caused more demand. EVERYTHING IS UP!

It's twice the amount in Europe because we're insisting they boycott Russia.

Its always been that way! WAYYY before the Ukraine conflict. Try again. Sorry, reality contradicts your beliefs.

If this statement makes your day, knock yourself out. I'm glad I could've brightened your mood even in the slightest degree. With what you would like to do with energy prices, you can use all the brightness you can possibly get.

I'd like to make it more affordable. The more energy options, the more competition, and thus the more cheaper. Also I believe in protecting the environment. Who knows what kind of illnesses this pollution creates. Respiratory illnesses for sure, possibly even cancer......

 

[wiseones2cents]

You peddle socialism where gubment owns the means of production.
I doubt you will ever understand how the psychology of socialism hinder MOTIVATION

The means of production is owned by the public. The government just manages it in a true socialist society.

Wait a minute? Weren't you one of the people saying that people are all naturally greedy? They can still earn money in a socialist system, they just cant earn it off the backs of others like capitalism.

So I have pictures of harvestors 6 very large combines in a row cutting our wheat. The combines are 40 feet wide. Less labor required.

They had to overcharge for their produce to pay for it, no? A socialist government would supply them free.

 

[Authentic Nouveau]

Again. You dont know what your talking about. You can't produce anything without money to pay for labor.

Your socialist utopias have no money.

That is unless you have slaves!

Socialism/comunism

Also fiat money cannot be affected by inflation that is not tied to real value(Like Gold).

Buy a used Econ text book. You don't understand your own words

Another way to increase money supply was to mine more gold and silver!

You are not sharp enough to understand the velocity of turnover

But if your currency is not fiat(like the US currency) and backed by debt that is backed by gold? Than yes. Inflation can play a part.

Also if you have less supply and more demand, that can also inflate prices.

I noticed more than 20+ years of "quantative easing" did not cause inflation in America(since it was used for corporate welfare).

Corporate welfare is a popular activist label

Used by people to prove they do not understand Financial statements.

Ignorant in biz education.

As soon as they gave free money to the public(covid relief), they needed to recuperate it, so they inflated the economy to get all the money back.




I'd like to make it more affordable. The more energy options, the more competition, and thus the more cheaper.

Like covid mandates, environmentalists are pushing expensive mandates to use some wind and eliminate economical sources.

Also I believe in protecting the environment. Who knows what kind of illnesses this pollution creates. Respiratory illnesses for sure, possibly even cancer......

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