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It serves the policy objective of people who want Ukraine to be a war with Russia to paint Vladimir Putin as Adolf Hitler. He's obviously not.
We have a member in our church who flew to Sakhalin Island Russia for the last 20 years. Building and expansion of refineries and oil production.
He worked 30 days on and 30days off. Apparently he was much closer to Tokyo and anchorage than Moscow. He was not aware of a Hitler complex. Of course Exxon and several American partners have left Russia recently. No trains to ovens he saw.
 
We have a member in our church who flew to Sakhalin Island Russia for the last 20 years. Building and expansion of refineries and oil production.
He worked 30 days on and 30days off. Apparently he was much closer to Tokyo and anchorage than Moscow. He was not aware of a Hitler complex. Of course Exxon and several American partners have left Russia recently. No trains to ovens he saw.
There in lies the problem. If Putin is not the equivalent of Adolf Hitler then maybe the case for the US involving itself in a war against Russia is not such a slam dunk. Barack Obama personally authorized the extra judicial killing of American citizens with drone strikes. Is Barack Obama the equivalent of Adolf Hitler? If so Russia has a pretty good argument for attacking the United States.
 
Wow! You obviously failed to comprehend the thrust of my comment. I think we can say without fear of credible contradiction that Hitler should be on everyone's shortlist of evilest people ever.
I understood. You said vilifying Putin served policy objective, and I added vilifying Hitler served western media policy(political) objectives.

Nah man. Hitler is not even top 100........There are some evil people out there. Now if your a Jew? Than ya. Hitler can be perceived as one of the evilest people.

If you think Hitler alone was involved with Nazi Germany, you've been decieved..........He was a great speech giver, thats about it.
 
Doubtless, a high proportion of the people that you would claim are more evil than Hitler, would have been sent to the death camps by him, if he had had the opportunity. Your point of view is so twisted, any sense contained in it has been squeezed out.
Do you know what the Japanese did with their prisoners? They tortured them, experimented on them, raped them. Much worse then what the 'Germans" did!

But they weren't "jews" so Hitler was worse. The Jews used inflated numbers of deaths so they can increase their compensation they asked from Germany. Where is China's compensation? Where is Korea's?

How many millions were killed in China alone? You should quit while you think your ahead. It's only got to get worse for you.
 
The Communist Manifesto by Marx and mein Kampf are like the Old Testament and new Testament core sacred writ for Communists/Socialists
Ummmmm. More nonsense. Hitler was against communism and thought it was Jewish movement.

The Bolshevik movement was indeed backed by the Jews. Notice how many of the Russian Oligarchs are Jewish?



Mein Kampf has also been studied as a work on political theory. For example, Hitler announces his hatred of what he believed to be the world's two evils: communism and Judaism.

In the book, Hitler blamed Germany's chief woes on the parliament of the Weimar Republic, the Jews, and Social Democrats, as well as Marxists, though he believed that Marxists, Social Democrats, and the parliament were all working for Jewish interests. He announced that he wanted to destroy the parliamentary system completely, believing it to be corrupt in principle, as those who reach power are inherent opportunists.

Even Goebbels at his trial warned the world the communists were coming for you. And he was right.....
 
Do you know what the Japanese did with their prisoners? They tortured them, experimented on them, raped them. Much worse then what the 'Germans" did!

But they weren't "jews" so Hitler was worse. The Jews used inflated numbers of deaths so they can increase their compensation they asked from Germany. Where is China's compensation? Where is Korea's?

How many millions were killed in China alone? You should quit while you think your ahead. It's only got to get worse for you.
Yes, I know how the Japanese treated prisoners of war. It was not genocide. The Jews in the death camps were not prisoners of war. No, the Jews did not inflate numbers in order to extort mor compensation. Typical antisemitic BS. Deaths, including atrocities against civilians, were very high in all theatres of war (except north America of course) but only the Nazis had concentration camps and genocide. Nothing done anywhere else came close to the wholesale murder of men, women and children. I recommend Jacob Bronowski's The Ascent of Man, if you can find it. An excellent series on the rise of civilization, with one episode about WWII and the Holocaust. But of course, you wouldn't watch it because Bronowski is a Jew.
 
The minute Christians like you display the kind of humility you're suggesting for others, you'll find it returned in-kind.

You'll never adopt the values you claim others should have, though.
All Christians like us are Christians like Furion.. but its Christ Jesus who is the truth.
 
Yes, I know how the Japanese treated prisoners of war. It was not genocide. The Jews in the death camps were not prisoners of war. No, the Jews did not inflate numbers in order to extort mor compensation. Typical antisemitic BS. Deaths, including atrocities against civilians, were very high in all theatres of war (except north America of course) but only the Nazis had concentration camps and genocide. Nothing done anywhere else came close to the wholesale murder of men, women and children. I recommend Jacob Bronowski's The Ascent of Man, if you can find it. An excellent series on the rise of civilization, with one episode about WWII and the Holocaust. But of course, you wouldn't watch it because Bronowski is a Jew.
And of course the marxists like Stalin and Mao killed and tortured millions more than the Nazis or the Japanese.
 
No, what we should be working on is preventing the predictions from coming to pass. They aren't like Bible prophesies. They are based on science and data, rather than myth, and the aim is to avoid them coming true, not pretend that they already have.
The trouble is people dont trust anything any more since false information gets peddled about covid and gender identity
 
I understood. You said vilifying Putin served policy objective, and I added vilifying Hitler served western media policy(political) objectives.

Nah man. Hitler is not even top 100........There are some evil people out there. Now if your a Jew? Than ya. Hitler can be perceived as one of the evilest people.

If you think Hitler alone was involved with Nazi Germany, you've been decieved..........He was a great speech giver, thats about it.
This is a profoundly stupid comment. The media including the New York Times went out of their way to carry water for Adolf Hitler. They did puff human interest stories on Adolf Hitler about the contemplative walks he would take with his dogs in the Swiss Alps emphasizing what a introspective human being he was. It is true that after the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor and Germany declared war on the United States the media change their view. But just everything about your comment above is insane. The jury is not out on Adolf Hitler. We know he didn't have an Epiphany and regret all of the evil that he did. The best we can determine is that he committed suicide in a bunker and had his body burn to keep it out of the hands of the Soviets. If there's any extent to which my comments about Adolf Hitler were overly hyperbolic the distinction of the hyperbole is not worth mentioning. The fact that Hitler was able to transmit his mega maniacal worldview into others in a very animated way that they could work it out in reality is entirely beside the point. Before and after Hitler the German people were quite rational and enlightened people on the whole. The ex-factor between German and Nazi was Adolf Hitler.

People make some very good cases about what is evil about Vladimir Putin by contrast. They point out the series of assassinations that he's engaged in even in foreign countries of oligarchs that are not on board with his agenda. Yes that is relatively worse than some of the things that I'm aware of the United States engaging in. I'm not trying to minimize that. But Vladimir Putin is not Adolf Hitler. I think it's important that when the United States does things through our leaders, like Barack Obama signing off on extra judicial murdering of American citizens on foreign soil through drone strikes, that we ought to face the moral implications of that kind of wickedness, and admit that the United States is subject to legitimate critique. I'm not trying to engage in some kind of false equivalency but, I think we just simply need to be realistic.
 
The trouble is people dont trust anything any more since false information gets peddled about covid and gender identity
No

It’s only you right-wing extremists not being able to even question your crazy worldview dispite every bit of evidence, from every credible source, and even your own own personal experience, making it clear you are wrong.
 
No

It’s only you right-wing extremists not being able to even question your crazy worldview dispite every bit of evidence, from every credible source, and even your own own personal experience, making it clear you are wrong.
What a galactically stupid and counterfactual comment.

 
Yes, I know how the Japanese treated prisoners of war. It was not genocide. The Jews in the death camps were not prisoners of war. No, the Jews did not inflate numbers in order to extort mor compensation. Typical antisemitic BS. Deaths, including atrocities against civilians, were very high in all theatres of war (except north America of course) but only the Nazis had concentration camps and genocide. Nothing done anywhere else came close to the wholesale murder of men, women and children. I recommend Jacob Bronowski's The Ascent of Man, if you can find it. An excellent series on the rise of civilization, with one episode about WWII and the Holocaust. But of course, you wouldn't watch it because Bronowski is a Jew.
They didn't discriminate against who they killed! They were MUCH worse. The Japanese did have rape houses.

Did China or Korea ever get compensation like the Jews did?

Ya sorry. I know enough about the war. A biased opinion wont ad much.

I understand why the war happened. It seems to be Jewish elites against Holy Roman Empire elites. The Anglo Saxons were completely subdued in England.

The thing is that American banks were bankrolling the Nazis, probably American Germanic allies of the Roman Empire. But they also fought for England(The actual fighting). Were they allies or just old fashioned war profiteers?

At one point their was a divide in America. The Germanic families to the south(with ties to the Roman Empire), and the British families in the north east with ties to the British Empire(which also had ties to the Roman empire).

After the war? The North clearly won.

Eventually the two parties became one party in America. Led by the Liberals for the most part. Reduced to playing good cop bad cop routines.

That's why all these years, republicans have had very little power, unless there was wars to wage. They got to play the bad guys(Or good guys, depending on your point of view).

One says no taxes and racks up the debt(They make their money via interest and inflation), the other says debt is too high, and they have to raise taxes(they make their money via taxation. Both are stealing from the public but in different ways.
 
This is a profoundly stupid comment. The media including the New York Times went out of their way to carry water for Adolf Hitler. They did puff human interest stories on Adolf Hitler about the contemplative walks he would take with his dogs in the Swiss Alps emphasizing what a introspective human being he was. It is true that after the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor and Germany declared war on the United States the media change their view. But just everything about your comment above is insane. The jury is not out on Adolf Hitler. We know he didn't have an Epiphany and regret all of the evil that he did. The best we can determine is that he committed suicide in a bunker and had his body burn to keep it out of the hands of the Soviets. If there's any extent to which my comments about Adolf Hitler were overly hyperbolic the distinction of the hyperbole is not worth mentioning. The fact that Hitler was able to transmit his mega maniacal worldview into others in a very animated way that they could work it out in reality is entirely beside the point. Before and after Hitler the German people were quite rational and enlightened people on the whole. The ex-factor between German and Nazi was Adolf Hitler.
Thanks for your opinion. It just doesn't hold much weight. Yes the west worshipped Hitler, made him person of the year and everything! Does not change ANY fact I stated. Yes we knew he was very sweet to Eva and loved children. Most of what people think about Hitler was portrayed in American media, as some crazy guy with a nasty temper. I dont give that much weight either.

He had his body burned? LMAO! Right!

Hitler was most likely a figure head for the remaining elites of the last German Monarch, who also said he was forced to abdicate by the Jews.....

People make some very good cases about what is evil about Vladimir Putin by contrast. They point out the series of assassinations that he's engaged in even in foreign countries of oligarchs that are not on board with his agenda. Yes that is relatively worse than some of the things that I'm aware of the United States engaging in. I'm not trying to minimize that. But Vladimir Putin is not Adolf Hitler. I think it's important that when the United States does things through our leaders, like Barack Obama signing off on extra judicial murdering of American citizens on foreign soil through drone strikes, that we ought to face the moral implications of that kind of wickedness, and admit that the United States is subject to legitimate critique. I'm not trying to engage in some kind of false equivalency but, I think we just simply need to be realistic.
Yes Putin is an ex KGB with blood on his hands, just like every CIA, Mossad and MI6, basically the assassins, drug dealers, kidnappers of the global elites....

Putin is a much higher figure than Hitler ever was.
 
Thanks for your opinion. It just doesn't hold much weight. Yes the west worshipped Hitler, made him person of the year and everything! Does not change ANY fact I stated. Yes we knew he was very sweet to Eva and loved children. Most of what people think about Hitler was portrayed in American media, as some crazy guy with a nasty temper. I dont give that much weight either.

He had his body burned? LMAO! Right!

Hitler was most likely a figure head for the remaining elites of the last German Monarch, who also said he was forced to abdicate by the Jews.....


Yes Putin is an ex KGB with blood on his hands, just like every CIA, Mossad and MI6, basically the assassins, drug dealers, kidnappers of the global elites....

Putin is a much higher figure than Hitler ever was.
I think that I've heard about all of the "Hitler was not such a bad guy" conversation that I'm willing to tolerate.
 
I think that I've heard about all of the "Hitler was not such a bad guy" conversation that I'm willing to tolerate.
I understand. It's difficult for people to accept truth, especially when they believed a lie for so many years. Talk to any cultist.lol

"It’s easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled” - Mark Twain

“It is easier to believe a lie that one has heard a thousand times than to believe a fact that one has never heard before.” ― Robert Lynd Read
 
I understand. It's difficult for people to accept truth, especially when they believed a lie for so many years. Talk to any cultist.lol

"It’s easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled” - Mark Twain

“It is easier to believe a lie that one has heard a thousand times than to believe a fact that one has never heard before.” ― Robert Lynd Read
You're not going to convince anybody on this forum that Hitler was simply misunderstood so there's no percentage in me arguing with you about this point you've simply identified yourself as a desperately wicked person. Continuing the conversation accomplishes absolutely nothing the point has been made.
 
You're not going to convince anybody on this forum that Hitler was simply misunderstood so there's no percentage in me arguing with you about this point you've simply identified yourself as a desperately wicked person. Continuing the conversation accomplishes absolutely nothing the point has been made.
1 You cant speak for everyone. 2. Hitler did not have the power you think he did. Someone was pulling the strings.

3. Desperately wicked? LMAO There is nothing 'desperate" about me. Same thing with wicked.

Here are some REAL testimonies of Hitler. Sounds like he became erratic(most likely Paranoid) after the first assassination attempt on him.


Courtney Davies
B.A from Curtin University

Not as bad as what is shown on film and television.

In film and television, Hitler is often shown as being a mentally unstable tyrant who is quite often yelling and screaming at everyone about everything. From what I have read of him, it appears as though that wasn't entirely accurate.

Most people who knew him claim they had not witnessed many of his "tantrums" first hand. I believe his secretary, Traudl Junge had stated in her book that she never saw him get angry with her or anyone else. Albert Speer had also spoke of that fact. Like most people, he described Hitler as being decent and rather pleasant to be around with. He said Hitler was quite the gentleman to ladies, as I have read a lot of men were back then.

As with most accounts, it only appears as though Hitler's bad temper became quite pronounced later on in the war, after his assassination attempt and during 1945. By that time, he was clearly mentally unstable and would often go on long rants about everything. As was shown in the film Downfall , Hitler's behaviour during that time was quite erratic. At one moment he would be relatively calm and the next he will be enraged with something or someone.
 
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