A collection on Mormonism

[SteveB]

This is a 4 part collection of blog articles about Mormonism.

The Book of Mormon vs the Bible Part 1

Joseph Smith claims that the Book of Mormon is the most correct and most inspiring book of all of history. Seeking to check out this claim, I am starting with looking at the reliability of the Bibl…

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The Bible vs the Book of Mormon Part 2: The apocrypha and the Gnostics

Joseph Smith made a claim that the Book of Mormon is the most correct book of any in history. This series is examining that claim, first examining the bar as set by the Bible. If it turns out that …

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The Bible vs the Book of Mormon part 3: The Apocrypha and the Gnostics

This is second video is talking about the Biblical canon and why we know both the Apocrypha and the Gnostic gospels should not be included in the canon.

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The Book of Mormon vs the Bible Part 4: The Historical and Archeological proof of the Bible

Joseph Smith made the claim that the Book of Mormon is the most true book of all of history. If that’s true then we should be able to test that theory pretty easily. This specific video expla…

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[Richard7]

This is a 4 part collection of blog articles about Mormonism.

The Book of Mormon vs the Bible Part 1

Joseph Smith claims that the Book of Mormon is the most correct and most inspiring book of all of history. Seeking to check out this claim, I am starting with looking at the reliability of the Bibl…

beardeddisciple.com

The Bible vs the Book of Mormon Part 2: The apocrypha and the Gnostics

Joseph Smith made a claim that the Book of Mormon is the most correct book of any in history. This series is examining that claim, first examining the bar as set by the Bible. If it turns out that …

beardeddisciple.com

The Bible vs the Book of Mormon part 3: The Apocrypha and the Gnostics

This is second video is talking about the Biblical canon and why we know both the Apocrypha and the Gnostic gospels should not be included in the canon.

beardeddisciple.com

The Book of Mormon vs the Bible Part 4: The Historical and Archeological proof of the Bible

Joseph Smith made the claim that the Book of Mormon is the most true book of all of history. If that’s true then we should be able to test that theory pretty easily. This specific video expla…

beardeddisciple.com

Listened to Part 1, not really impressed with his analogy of the Bible versus the Book of Mormon.... He pretty much denies that feelings or revelation exist as a true test of Gods Word. So I believe he is more into objective evidence and possesses little faith that God speaks today as he did in times past...

 

[Theo1689]

Listened to Part 1, not really impressed with his analogy of the Bible versus the Book of Mormon.... He pretty much denies that feelings or revelation exist as a true test of Gods Word. So I believe he is more into objective evidence and possesses little faith that God speaks today as he did in times past...

I watched LDS GC for quite a number of years, and God didn't "speak" ONCE in all that time. So I guess God has abandoned Mormons.

 

[SteveB]

Listened to Part 1, not really impressed with his analogy of the Bible versus the Book of Mormon.... He pretty much denies that feelings or revelation exist as a true test of Gods Word. So I believe he is more into objective evidence and possesses little faith that God speaks today as he did in times past...

So, you think feelings are a good method for determining the truth?

 

[Richard7]

So, you think feelings are a good method for determining the truth?

I support the doctrine of prayer

Matthew 7:7-8
7 Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye. shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you: 8 For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh. findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened.

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[SteveB]

I support the doctrine of prayer

Matthew 7:7-8
7 Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye. shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you: 8 For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh. findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened.

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I'm a humongous believer in the practice of praying.
That was how I met the Jesus of the bible.

As is written in Jeremiah 24:7, and 29:11-13, YHVH responded to my prayer.

That said.... it still doesn't actually answer my question about feelings being a valid means to determine truth.

After all, isn't the Jesus of the LDS the spirit brother of Lucifer?

 

[Theo1689]

I support the doctrine of prayer

Matthew 7:7-8
7 Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye. shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you: 8 For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh. findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened.

Did God show you His photo-ID, so that you know it was Him who answered your prayer?

As it turns out, God told ME that the LDS church is false, and so you are free to destroy your church, since God said it was worthless and not from Him. (And if your reject this testimony, then you are rejecting "subjective" and "the doctrine of prayer".)

 

[Janice Bower]

Thank you, Steve. I've watched Part One and will watch more another time.

 

[dberrie2020]

So, you think feelings are a good method for determining the truth?

It depends on what the source of those "feelings" are:

John 16:13---King James Version
13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.

So, Steve--I have a question for you. Do you believe the Spirit working in one is separate from a "feeling"? Do you believe love isn't something one "feels"? What conviction does one have, which is not part of a feeling? What belief?

What does one go on--if it's void of "feelings"? I would agree--not every feeling is founded on truth, but that still isn't proof God does not work through our personal feelings, or can't do so.

Luke 24:32---King James Version
32 And they said one to another, Did not our heart burn within us, while he talked with us by the way, and while he opened to us the scriptures?

How did they know their hearts burned within them--unless they felt it?

IOW--it's just ridiculous to question the power of human feelings--when the Holy Ghost is the source of those feelings. I can understand the need to question the source of the feelings--but to question feelings at all?????

 

[Aaron32]

So, you think feelings are a good method for determining the truth?

Yes and no.

Galatians 5
22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law

It's more than feelings, it's a disposition resulting in Christlike bahavior.

 

[Richard7]

Did God show you His photo-ID, so that you know it was Him who answered your prayer?

As it turns out, God told ME that the LDS church is false, and so you are free to destroy your church, since God said it was worthless and not from Him. (And if your reject this testimony, then you are rejecting "subjective" and "the doctrine of prayer".)

And you accuse others of being snarky... chuckle... oh my!

 

[Richard7]

I'm a humongous believer in the practice of praying.
That was how I met the Jesus of the bible.

As is written in Jeremiah 24:7, and 29:11-13, YHVH responded to my prayer.

That said.... it still doesn't actually answer my question about feelings being a valid means to determine truth.

After all, isn't the Jesus of the LDS the spirit brother of Lucifer?

How did you know your prayer was answered? were you given objective proof or was it answered with a feeling?

 

[Richard7]

Did God show you His photo-ID, so that you know it was Him who answered your prayer?

As it turns out, God told ME that the LDS church is false, and so you are free to destroy your church, since God said it was worthless and not from Him. (And if your reject this testimony, then you are rejecting "subjective" and "the doctrine of prayer".)

I doubt very much God told you the LDS church is false, but that is between you and God!

 

[Theo1689]

And you accuse others of being snarky... chuckle... oh my!

Nice dodge of my (very relevant) question.
You say you had "answered prayer".
Who answered it?
How do you know it was God who answered it?

These are very valid questions, which Mormons can't answer, and which proves that "subjective" evidence is worthless.

You claim answers from "God" which are CONTRADICTORY to what God has actually revealed.

 

[Theo1689]

I doubt very much God told you the LDS church is false, but that is between you and God!

And I know for a FACT that God never confirmed the authenticity of the Book of Mormon to you.

 

[Richard7]

And I know for a FACT that God never confirmed the authenticity of the Book of Mormon to you.

Very much so, you see the modern day christians don't believe in revelation anymore. Subjective, emotional answers to prayers just does not happen, never did never will according to Evangelical thought .

 

[Richard7]

Nice dodge of my (very relevant) question.
You say you had "answered prayer".
Who answered it?
How do you know it was God who answered it?

These are very valid questions, which Mormons can't answer, and which proves that "subjective" evidence is worthless.

You claim answers from "God" which are CONTRADICTORY to what God has actually revealed.

Here it is folks, visitors and guest.... a non snarky remark from Theo .... "Did God show you His photo-ID, so that you know it was Him who answered your prayer?"

 

[Theo1689]

Very much so, you see the modern day christians don't believe in revelation anymore.

1) False.
2) Off-topic.
3) Another example of how Mormons are incapable of defending their beliefs, so they have to instead derail and try to attack "modern day christians".

Subjective, emotional answers to prayers just does not happen, never did never will according to Evangelical thought .

1) False.
2) Off-topic.
3) Another example of how Mormons are incapable of defending their beliefs, so they have to instead derail and try to attack "modern day christians".

 

[Theo1689]

Here it is folks, visitors and guest.... a non snarky remark from Theo .... "Did God show you His photo-ID, so that you know it was Him who answered your prayer?"

We're STILL waiting for you to explain to us how you know your answer came from God.

But you can't, and you know you can't, which is why you have to instead constantly attack "modern day christians".

 

[Leatherneck0311]

Here it is folks, visitors and guest.... a non snarky remark from Theo .... "Did God show you His photo-ID, so that you know it was Him who answered your prayer?"

I believe he was trying to get you to understand that Satan appears as an angel of light, and that is why Christian’s are supposed to test the spirit wether it is of God or Satan. Any spirit should be tested against the revealed word of God to determine if does not violate known scripture because the Spirit of God will not contradict God nor make sin appealing.