Abortion: Genocide in the Womb

BMS

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Arrogance.
ignorance

Only if they are opining on their own pregnancies.
according to what you have said that isnt up to you. Practice what you preach, or dont you understand what you are preaching. If it is up to the woman and not us to have an opinion, as you say, then why are you posting your opinion just for the women who are pro-choice? Sounds like you are trying to silence other opinions. Bad luck.


Have I given an opinion on the morality of abortion?
depends what you mean by morality. I would say there is morality in your comments after having said its not up to us.

Back to my point. When you consent to the offspring as a human being, being killed for your reasons, what chance others respecting human life?
 

Eightcrackers

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according to what you have said that isnt up to you.
I never said it was.
I said - and have always said - that the only opinion that should matter when it comes to Pregnant Woman X's pregnancy is that of Pregnant Woman X.

I think her pregnancy is great, and she wants an abortion? Doesn't matter what I think.
You think her pregnancy is great, and she wants an abortion? Doesn't matter what you think.
Back to my point. When you consent to the offspring as a human being, being killed for your reasons, what chance others respecting human life?
What you do is draw a hard line under abortion and say "just because I favour a woman being able to kill a person that's inside her own body, this does not extend to any other kind of killing."

Instead of trying a slippery slope fallacy.
 

BMS

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I never said it was.
I said - and have always said - that the only opinion that should matter when it comes to Pregnant Woman X's pregnancy is that of Pregnant Woman X.
that isnt my opinion but if it is yours why are you posting your opinion when it doesnt matter according to you?? Why are you giving your opinion as pro-choice when many women dont agree with you?

What you do is draw a hard line under abortion and say "just because I favour a woman being able to kill a person that's inside her own body, this does not extend to any other kind of killing."
arogance. others would tell you that can extend.
Btw since I support abortion if the mother and/or the offspring are going to die, what do you mean by hard line under abortion?
 

Eightcrackers

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arogance. others would tell you that can extend.
Then take that up with them, not me, because my position is that abortion can't be extended to killing the born.
Btw since I support abortion if the mother and/or the offspring are going to die, what do you mean by hard line under abortion?
"If abortion, why not <insert other example of killing humans>?"

This is a slippery slope fallacy - drawing a line means denying the fallacious extention.
 

BMS

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Then take that up with them, not me, because my position is that abortion can't be extended to killing the born.
so your claim was false.

"If abortion, why not <insert other example of killing humans>?"
why not, that is my point, what about human beings getting killed in some countries because they are homosexual. You both have your reasons.
 

Eightcrackers

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why not, that is my point,
Why?
That is my point.
what about human beings getting killed in some countries because they are homosexual. You both have your reasons.
First, I'm not the one doing the killing when it comes to abortion.

Second, yes - people that kill gays have their reasons, just as pregnant women have their reasons.
Doesn't mean I have to agree with them.
 

Bob Carabbio

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Man's law is as absolute as it gets, as far as anybody has been able to prove.

If you want us to care what your god thinks, prove that he's real, or stop complaining.
Chuckle!!! You already KNOW He's real, but you don't want to deal with Him (Rom 1:18-32).
 

BMS

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Why?
That is my point.

First, I'm not the one doing the killing when it comes to abortion.

Second, yes - people that kill gays have their reasons, just as pregnant women have their reasons.
Doesn't mean I have to agree with them.
All killing though. So first, I am not the one advocating killing other human beings, you are.
Second, using your position they dont have to agree with you... same philosophy.
 

Eightcrackers

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All killing though. So first, I am not the one advocating killing other human beings, you are.
Under certain circumstances, yes.
Second, using your position they dont have to agree with you... same philosophy.
Which proves my point - it's all opinion.

The moment somebody establishes that abortion is factually immoral, I will change my mind.
Indeed, I will have no choice but to do so.
 

BMS

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Under certain circumstances, yes.

Which proves my point - it's all opinion.

The moment somebody establishes that abortion is factually immoral, I will change my mind.
Indeed, I will have no choice but to do so.
I get what you are saying, but many have establiahed pro-choice abortion is immoral. You are just one of those who dont see it.
 
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