Eightcrackers
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Isn't it irreseponsible to put people into the world that you won't be taking care of?it was irresponsible to have unprotected sex and now another human person must die as a consequence.
Isn't it irreseponsible to put people into the world that you won't be taking care of?it was irresponsible to have unprotected sex and now another human person must die as a consequence.
Then you agree with me - women with unwanted pregnancies did not intend to get pregnant?Waffle. Intent plays no part in whether unprotected sexual intercourse results in conception or not.
Unprotected sex is knowingly inviting the possibility of becoming pregnant. If a woman doesn't want to be pregnant then she protects herself from it.No, it isn't.
No more than my "no bans" wedding is an explicit invitation to all.
Invitation: "I'm doing this thing, and I want you here.
Prevention: "I'm doing this thing, and I don't want you here."
Unprotected sex without the intent of getting pregnant is neither inviting nor preventing it.
And here you said it - possibility.Unprotected sex is knowingly inviting the possibility of becoming pregnant.
And if she doesn't want to be pregnant, she is not inviting pregnancy.If a woman doesn't want to be pregnant then she protects herself from it.
So unwanted pregnancies is a pretext because it may happen whether you want it or not.Then you agree with me - women with unwanted pregnancies did not intend to get pregnant?
Er... no?So unwanted pregnancies is a pretext because it may happen whether you want it or not.
Yes possibility. Soif it does happen saying you didnt want it, is irrelevantAnd here you said it - possibility.
And if she doesn't want to be pregnant, she is not inviting pregnancy.
Whether she has unprotected sex, or not.
No, it's not.Yes possibility. Soif it does happen saying you didnt want it, is irrelevant
No control about whether unprotected sex results in conception means that whether you wanted it or not, is NOT a factor in responsibility. You knew it may happen and now it has done, take responsibility.Er... no?
The fact that you have no control doesn't mean your wanting/not wanting is not a factor when it comes to the assignation of responsibility.
Of course its irrelevant because it has no control. Your whole argument is a pretext.No, it's not.
The post-wanting or not-wanting condition is what determines whether or not she has an abortion.
Having an abortion is one manner of taking responsibility.You knew it may happen and now it has done, take responsibility.
There are indeed many ways in which pregnancy can be prevented. There are also many ways in high a pregnancy can be inadvertent. Contraception can fail. A 99.9% success rate men's that one in every thousand sex acts with contraception can end in pregnancy. That's enough for every single woman over the course of their active fertile sex life. Contraception can be bypassed deliberately by the male. Bizarre though it is, there are men who sabotage their condom use. Sex can be an unexpected event, in unexpected circumstances. Otherwise careful women at take a risk , perhaps because of drink or drugs, or because of persuasion or coercion. Or they may simply be overcome with emotion when contraception is unavailable. There is also the point that pregnancy lasts a long time. Circumstances change and what was once a wanted pregnancy can become an unwanted one.I agree that access to healthcare, education, and contraception are important and should be free. These things should not be provided by those who make a living aborting the unborn. If a woman doesn't want to be a parent, then there are many ways of preventing pregnancy. She needs to take responsibility for her actions. In this day and age, they are without excuse in most countries.
Clearly not since the thinking was wrong in the first place. I would call it ignorant stupidity.Having an abortion is one manner of taking responsibility.
I see no blighting of lives, only ignorant killing of another human being.There are indeed many ways in which pregnancy can be prevented. There are also many ways in high a pregnancy can be inadvertent. Contraception can fail. A 99.9% success rate men's that one in every thousand sex acts with contraception can end in pregnancy. That's enough for every single woman over the course of their active fertile sex life. Contraception can be bypassed deliberately by the male. Bizarre though it is, there are men who sabotage their condom use. Sex can be an unexpected event, in unexpected circumstances. Otherwise careful women at take a risk , perhaps because of drink or drugs, or because of persuasion or coercion. Or they may simply be overcome with emotion when contraception is unavailable. There is also the point that pregnancy lasts a long time. Circumstances change and what was once a wanted pregnancy can become an unwanted one.
I see no reason to blight the lives of young women because they are feckless or unlucky. Every pregnancy occurs in different circumstances. Every pregnant individual faces their pregnancy differently. Only they can make the choice to continue or terminate the pregnancy. By all means help them to make the positive choice. Mitigate the problems they face. The condemnation and threatened prosecution of women already stressed by the choice they have to make, is not the way to go.
Then you are blinkered in your thinking. Not seeing things is your speciality.I see no blighting of lives, only ignorant killing of another human being.
Putting the baby up for adoption is a much better choice. It would allieve the guilt and depression and allow the child to live.Having an abortion is one manner of taking responsibility.
Says the poster who cant even define a woman.Then you are blinkered in your thinking. Not seeing things is your speciality.
Only if you are also willing to carry to term.Putting the baby up for adoption is a much better choice.
Then dont get pregnant.Isn't it irreseponsible to put people into the world that you won't be taking care of?
Then don't get pregnantOnly if you are also willing to carry to term.