Abortion is murder in a non-legal sense... so what?

[shnarkle]

The owning of slaves is "just another social issue" - thanks for clearing that up.

Repugnant.

A woman's right to execute her unborn child is a private property rights issue just like slavery. If one is repugnant, then the other is as well for the exact same reasons.

 

[Yakuda]

You appear to believe that "Morality" is connected to some "Absolute". But it's not. It's totally circumstantial, and determined by the Society du jour. I.E. "Human Morals" don't mean SPIT.

It is tied to an absolute. YOU are referring to them as "human" morals, where have I?

 

[Bob Carabbio]

It is tied to an absolute. YOU are referring to them as "human" morals, where have I?

GOD doesn't DO "morals". He does SIN, and Righteousness.

 

[Bob Carabbio]

I didn't realize you were so much smarter than the founders, Bob. 😂

The "Founders" for the most part were "Deists".

 

[Yakuda]

The "Founders" for the most part were "Deists".

So? They believed in an uninvolved Creator.

 

[Bob Carabbio]

So? They believed in an uninvolved Creator.

I.e. they weren't "Christians", and weren't using the BIBLE as their source of information. After all, satan believes in GOD (probably more accurately than WE do).

 

[Yakuda]

I.e. they weren't "Christians", and weren't using the BIBLE as their source of information. After all, satan believes in GOD (probably more accurately than WE do).

Oh brother.

 

[BMS]

Except that the slave is not physically living inside the slave owner, physically taking oxygen and nutrients from his body.

In other words... the "exact same reasons" don't apply.

Except that the latter is the human reproductive process which you are objecting to. This means you are living in a world of imagination.
Also neither are there on their own accord.
Also the slave doesnt necessarily die.
So abortion is worse than slavery.
Anyone who supports killing the
Offspring by choice is capable of any imaginary stupidity... like gender identity

 

[Authentic Nouveau]

How? How is self-preservation the answer to the question, "Why does society value your life?" That is not the point at which you went crazy.

You are (surprise!) avoiding the issue. I ask again, it what sane society do POLITICIANS decree that children should have their genitals examined before competing in sport? I can imagine the Taliban doing this, but what other society is so dominated by conservative religious bigots obsessed with sex?

Do you still support insane athletes who violate rules?

Every University track meet our daughter had her shot put weighed.

Your psycho peoples are demanding Clot shot certificates.

 

[Howie]

Nope, it's society's opinion. The collective opinion of society enshrined in its history and laws have decided this. Of course that is subject to change, and of course it hasn't always been the case. But for now and the foreseeable future I am content.

Actually, it's the decision of politicians.

Put to a vote, abortion will lose. That's why it's never going to be put to vote.

 

[Temujin]

Actually, it's the decision of politicians.

Put to a vote, abortion will lose. That's why it's never going to be put to vote.

Not according to polls. But of course, you know better.

 

[BMS]

Except that the slave is not physically living inside the slave owner, physically taking oxygen and nutrients from his body.

That's fair enough but then as the point was made, a woman's right to execute her unborn child is a private property rights issue just like slavery. If one is repugnant, then the other is as well for the exact same reasons.

In other words... the "exact same reasons" don't apply.

Some slaves were treated well, so maybe it is similar enough.
One can often find an exception to try and undermine the primary reason

 

[Howie]

Not according to polls. But of course, you know better.

Of course.

 

[Temujin]

Of course.

Lol! The certainty of faith.

 

[Howie]

Lol! The certainty of faith.

Of knowledge. Yours is faith.