Abortion Question?

[BMS]

Men are not to blame for the morals of girls. Men ARE to blame for their OWN morals, going out with sex in mind.

If a woman goes out with sex on the mind and doesn't find a willing man, nothing happens. No sex, no unwanted pregnancy. Yes, the woman still has questionable morals that should be dealt with, but the issue has NOTHING to do with abortion.

If a man goes out with sex on the mind and doesn't find a willing woman, all too often he forces his way on a woman. And then there are THREE sins: sexual immorality, rape, and then the possibility of abortion.

So yes, I put the responsibility on men, where it belongs.

I would echo Manfred's post. "Teach both men and woman the sanctity of marriage instead of promoting promiscuity."

 

[Temujin]

Fine. Teach both men and woman the sanctity of marriage instead of promoting promiscuity.

Your whole blame game op is stupid to start with and shows that you have zero morals.

Will you have your son snipped when he turns 13 or did you get him snipped if he already is.

If not, what is stopping you from ensuring he gets snipped (not always reversible), or would he be a special case.
What are you as a Mother doing do make sure he does not force himself on girs when he goes out with sex on the mind?

It is not the sanctity of marriage that is the problem. The idea is false for a start. Marriage in the sense you mean is just a way of ensuring property is inherited by legitimate heirs. It was just a business proposition, with the woman treated as a chattel to be given by one man to another. Being married doesn't stop you being raped. Indeed it legitimised rape by your spouse. So much for "sanctity"

What is important is mutual respect, whereby neither partner is coerced into anything they don't want to do. If that leads to a lasting relationship based on love, that's great. If not, no harm is done.

 

[Manfred]

What an ignorant reply.

Was it really..

Feudal classes etc is just an ecxuse. Morally depraved Godless people who have no compassion for women and treat them as chattel does not make marriage as God intended it to be.

But your Godlessness is surely showing

 

[BMS]

When I say much of it is wrong, I mean the kind of harmful garbage that you spout here.

Its the data showing what is the child abuse that you support. The sources have been given to you more than once before.
All you can do is say Temujin doesnt like it... no evidence, just your imaginary gender ideologue.

 

[BMS]

It is not the sanctity of marriage that is the problem. The idea is false for a start. Marriage in the sense you mean is just a way of ensuring property is inherited by legitimate heirs. It was just a business proposition, with the woman treated as a chattel to be given by one man to another. Being married doesn't stop you being raped. Indeed it legitimised rape by your spouse. So much for "sanctity"

What is important is mutual respect, whereby neither partner is coerced into anything they don't want to do. If that leads to a lasting relationship based on love, that's great. If not, no harm is done.

It is the lack of sanctity of marriage that is the problem. That is exactly what it is. But marriage in the sense that was explained to you and not in the sense you are imagining. An abusive father is not part of the sancitity of marriage.

 

[Temujin]

It is the lack of sanctity of marriage that is the problem. That is exactly what it is. But marriage in the sense that was explained to you and not in the sense you are imagining. An abusive father is not part of the sancitity of marriage.

Marriage, as in a traditional Christian marriage blessed in church, between a man and a woman, is perfectly fine. As are many other forms of marriage, from other faith traditions or entirely secular. What matters is the feelings and commitment of the people involved. Not the "sanctity".

 

[Temujin]

Its the data showing what is the child abuse that you support. The sources have been given to you more than once before.
All you can do is say Temujin doesnt like it... no evidence, just your imaginary gender ideologue.

Most child and domestic abuse takes place within the "sanctity" of the kind of marriage that you support. That is what data shows.

 

[BMS]