Blessings8
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BY what authority to come?no, not when you parrot teachings of the rcc.
BY what authority to come?no, not when you parrot teachings of the rcc.
I have no need to prove whatever point you think I posted.to prove your point
mica said:
no, not when you parrot teachings of the rcc.
what is it you are trying to ask?BY what authority to come?
Your church teaches false doctrines all over the place, not found in tbe Bible, not even a hint. Like the 4 Marian Dogmas, one must believe, to be saved.The Church doesn't teach false doctrines. It is the pillar and foundation of the truth.
Churches that teach what the apostles taught in the first century church are the true Apostolic church. Yours teaches plenty not taught by Jesus or the apostles--like the 4 Marian Dogmas. That means your church is not an apostolic church. Not by a long shot.You cant be an apostate unless you left the one true church. Denominations who don't even claim apostolic authority are not the Church Christ established.
The corpse would have to have some ID buried with it, or in a bone box with an inscription etched on it, clearly identifying who it was.Like I said: "BASED ON NOTHING". Roman Catholics "Develop" all sorts of baseless doctrines to load on their victims. If they DID find a "Body" 800 years after the fact, how would they even know who it was????
Yes, she has posted some.lol, you posted none,.
Take a real good look at the article. Is this guy what you would call righteous? Do you honestly think that rc leaders should participate in orgies and abuse little children. He did this crock on one side of his face, while telling the laity he was so pious on the other. It wasn't just him, but many other rc cardinals, and rc bishops.Is that your excuse? Those who sexually sinned?
Your church can claim apostolic authority all it wants to--that won't make it true. What it teaches does not remotely teach what Jesus and the apostles taught. Your church has gone heterodoxic--big time.You cant be an apostate unless you left the one true church. Denominations who don't even claim apostolic authority are not the Church Christ established.
We can compare what is actually in Scripture with what your church teaches, and can then determine, by discernment given to us by the indwelling HS, that it has many unbiblical teachings. We "test the spirits" as Scripture exhorts us to, as even the Bereans did, to test what Paul was teaching them. Where did THEIR "authority" come from, to do that?nope. And who are you to say it does? by what authority to proclaim to know infallibly what is truth?
There have been some pastors and Vicars who sexually abused children in my church body. It happened once with a vicar in my parents' church, decades ago. They were arrested, went to jail, and were defrocked if they were already pastors. No cover up.you do realize that there are many NC faiths that sin the same way. you think it is only the those who have infiltrated Christs church that are to be held responsible?
Post no. 363.You posted no verses. All you posted is your opinion.
In Luke 4: 7The Assumption of the Blessed Virgin Mary into heaven is a dogmatic tradition of Apostolic origin.
Among the feasts of the Saints this is the solemnity of solemnities. "Let the mind of man," says St.Peter Damian, "be occupied in declaring her magnificence; let his speech reflect her majesty. May the sovereign of the world deign to accept the good will of our lips, to aid our insufficiency, to illumine with her own light the sublimity of this day"
In his instructions to the newly-converted Bulgarians, Pope St. Nicholas I, who occupied the Apostolic See from 858 to 867, had already united these four solemnities (Christmas, Easter, Pentecost and the Assumption) when recommending the fasts of Lent, of the Ember days, and of the Vigils of these feasts: "Fasts," he says, "which the holy Roman Church has "long since received and observed."
St. Jerome eloquently declared the grandeur of this feast : "Incomparable as is she who thereon ascended glorious and happy to the sanctuary of heaven: a solemnity, the admiration of the heavenly hosts, the happiness of the citizens of our true country, who, not content with giving it one day as we do, celebrate it unceasingly in the eternal continuity of their veneration, of their love, and of their triumphant joy."
Certain ancient calendars give this feast the title of Sleep or Repose, dormitio or pausatio of the Blessed Virgin. The Greeks, from whom we have the expression, have always included in the solemnity the glorious triumph that followed her death. The same is to be said of the Syrians,
Chaldeans, Copts, and Armenians.
Thus the Supreme Pontiff, Pope Pius XII, pastor of all Christians and head of the Universal Church solemnly proclaimed in his declaration, Munificentissimus Deus, 1 November 1950: "By the authority of our Lord Jesus Christ, of the Blessed Apostles Peter and Paul, and by our own authority, we pronounce, declare, and define it to be a divinely revealed dogma: that the Immaculate Mother of God, the ever Virgin Mary, having completed the course of her earthly life, was assumed body and soul into heavenly glory."
Sancta dei genitrix ora pro nobis!
Which is why the RCC denies and despises sola scriptura. The hierarchy know that if their "private interpretations" and unwritten(!) "sacred traditions" were compared to God's Word, they'd be out. Out of power, out of position, and out on the street!We can compare what is actually in Scripture with what your church teaches,
That is a good point. Kudos! They would realize that they wouldn't need their priests to "interpret" Scripture for them; they could understand it on their own, with the help of the indwelling HS. After all, Lynn Wilder and her entire family read the NT for themselves, taking off their Mormon glasses first, before reading it, and doing so led them out of the darkness of Mormonism into the true light of the True Jesus Christ of the Bible. Not trying to change the subject, but just using this as one example, to show the power of God's Holy Word!Which is why the RCC denies and despises sola scriptura. The hierarchy know that if their "private interpretations" and unwritten(!) "sacred traditions" were compared to God's Word, they'd be out. Out of power, out of position, and out on the street!
--Rich
"Esse quam videri"
Since when do you care what Scripture says? Only when it suits you?Where does it say "regardless of denominational affiliation" in Scripture? That is Protestant made up stuff along with denominations themselves. Manmade traditions!
NOUN
- a recognized autonomous branch of the Christian Church:
"the Presbyterian community is the second largest denomination in the country"
synonyms:
religious group · sect · Church · cult · movement · faith community·
The Church has God given authority over us. It makes rules for our own good. In a similar way, a parent has God given authority over his child. A mother or father can tell a child he must join the family for dinner or when his bedtime is or any other rule of the house and the child is obligated to do so or he sins against God as well as the parent, doesn't he? Does Scripture mention dinner with the family or bedtime or anything of that sort? No it doesn't. It doesn't have to. We are obligated to all rightful authority, including the Church, God has placed over us.
Heb 13:7 Obey your leaders and submit to them, for they are keeping watch over your souls, as those who will have to give an account. Let them do this with joy and not with groaning, for that would be of no advantage to you.
sure, without the obedience.No. I can know plenty without doing that.
Ordained through the 'laying on of hands'.... apostolic successionWhich is any called and ordained servant of the Word,
yes, although you forgot about the ministerial priesthoodbecause all believers are a royal priesthood
sure, without the obedience.
Oh, so you acknowledge that ordinations in my church are legitimate, eh?Ordained through the 'laying on of hands'.... apostolic succession
I forgot nothing. But there are no church workers called"priests" in the NT church, because ALL believers are a royal proesthood to God the Father, with Jesus as our great High Priest. We have pastors, elders, deaconesses and deacons.yes, although you forgot about the ministerial priesthood
No.... Lk 10:16 Whoever listens to you listens to ME. Whoever rejects you rejects me. And whoever rejects me rejects the one who sent me.Obedience to your church leaders? Yes, no obedience to them. To Jesus Christ? Most assuredly!
Only if you are Orthodox ? ... I think you are LutheranOh, so you acknowledge that ordinations in my church are legitimate, eh?
Jude is a very small book... you can finish it quite quickly BonnieWe have pastors, elders, deaconesses and deacons.