CrowCross
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First it not of works....then it is of works.....Yup, flip floppy.Wishy and flip floppy, huh? Is this some kind of intelligent observation?
First it not of works....then it is of works.....Yup, flip floppy.Wishy and flip floppy, huh? Is this some kind of intelligent observation?
Point number 5.
CrowCross said: LOL...the bible says Jesus is God the Word...made flesh. The Mormons disagree.
Then it is overly obvious you disagree with the mormon in point 5."Point number 5" isn't going to validate your false accusation here:
That's a false claim, period. The LDS believe the Word of God was Jesus Christ--and He was made flesh, and manifested Himself to mankind. Jesus Christ is also believed by the LDS to be the God of the OT.
I will give you another one, to really make it wishy washy for you.... " Obedience"...First it not of works....then it is of works.....Yup, flip floppy.
False teaching. There is only ONE God."Point number 5" isn't going to validate your false accusation here:
That's a false claim, period. The LDS believe the Word of God was Jesus Christ--and He was made flesh, and manifested Himself to mankind. Jesus Christ is also believed by the LDS to be the God of the OT.
I'm obedient....but not always. Are you always obedient?I will give you another one, to really make it wishy washy for you.... " Obedience"...
Nope, but if one wants to stay on the Covenant Path he/she will to their best to be obedient, get baptized, keep all the ordinances and come unto Christ fully as in converting themselves to Him and His will...I'm obedient....but not always. Are you always obedient?
Perhaps you can list al of the ordinances.Nope, but if one wants to stay on the Covenant Path he/she will to their best to be obedient, get baptized, keep all the ordinances and come unto Christ fully as in converting themselves to Him and His will...
dberrie2020 said: "The LDS believe the Word of God was Jesus Christ--and He was made flesh, and manifested Himself to mankind. Jesus Christ is also believed by the LDS to be the God of the OT.
False teaching.
Perhaps you can list al of the ordinances.
I'm obedient....but not always. Are you always obedient?
Ordinances were mentioned as a requirement by Richard7.....which seems to be pretty important for the mormons....and you can't list them?The fact is--if anyone here could link ANY ordinance with God's grace--then the theology pushed here by the critics would be false--at once:
Acts 2:38---King James Version
38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
From what I hear you say...if your not obedient...you don't have eternal life.Who is obedient, or how often--has nothing to do with the testimony of the scriptures:
Hebrews 5:9---King James Version
9 And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him;
And who is obedient or who isn't--has nothing to do with the reality of that truth. Truth always stands independent of all spheres or conditions which surround it.
From what I hear you say...if your not obedient...you don't have eternal life.
Ordinances were mentioned as a requirement by Richard7.....which seems to be pretty important for the mormons....and you can't list them?
But YOU, dberrie2020 don't obey the gospel of the true Lord Jesus Christ.How is that an different from the Biblical witness?
2 Thessalonians 1:7-9---King James Version
7 And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
9 Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;
I listed an ordinance found in the Biblical text, and the LDS church--which connects an ordinance with God's grace:
Acts 2:38---King James Version
38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
Until you can recognize that truth, and that it explodes your theology, and agrees with LDS theology--then going forward with other ordinances isn't productive. If you disbelieve that testimony--then you would disbelieve any which followed, involving ordinances.
But YOU, dberrie2020 don't obey the gospel of the true Lord Jesus Christ.
CrowCross said:
From what I hear you say...if your not obedient...you don't have eternal life.