Acts 5:32 Obedience before the indwelling
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Salvation that can be lost is salvation by works.
zerinus
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Do you have reading difficulties?
According to the Bible, not me:
John 15:
10 If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father’s commandments, and abide in his love.
zerinus
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Salvation cannot be lost. The question is, When do you have it? The biblical answer is, Not untill you have “endured to the end”.
Sethproton
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Did you read what I wrote? I specifically answered that,
I find here that if someone reads a post that answers their question and then just asks the same question again as if nothing was said, there is generally some agenda beyond the answer to the question.
Since I already directly answered this question, maybe you can tell me what you are really after?
zerinus
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I think I have given him a better answer! So let’s how he will respond to that.
Your "Yes" in thus was affirmative response that salvation be lost.
You need to make up your mind.
I just returned to the thread. If you don't want to answer my question, ignore it, and I'll know.
Give me a yes, or a no, Seth.
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zerinus
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Dumb responses all around, therefore no need to waste more time. It is obvious that you have lost the argument and know it, and have no more meaningful contribution to make.
Simpletruther
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And what if yo fail again? Repent again?
Got it, chief. Based on that response, I conclude your theology is works based.because you believe gifts are earned. 👍
zerinus
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It depends on how you fail. If you fail due to natural human weakness, yes, you can repent again. But if you fail out of a willful and outright defiance of the will of God, that cannot be so easily repented of or forgiven.
Also, to repent means to stop sinning. Repenting and sinning, and repenting and sinning, and repenting and sinning, ... means that you had never repented in the first place. If you shoplift today, and repent of it tomorrow; and do it again the following day, and repent of it the next day; and do it again the following day, ... that means that you had never repented in the first place. You cannot deceive God. God knows what is in people’s hearts, and judges them accordingly.
Repent does not mean, "stop sinning." Go look it up.
The Gospel is Good News.
Losing salvation is very, very bad.
Again, salvation from outcome of human actions is SALVATION BY WORKS.
Sethproton
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yes
zerinus
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Your ignorance of the Bible is staggering. Jesus came to call sinners to “repentance”:
Matthew 9:
13 But go ye and learn what that meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice: for I am not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.
Mark 2:
17 When Jesus heard it, he saith unto them, They that are whole have no need of the physician, but they that are sick: I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.
Luke 5:
32 I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.
Luke 15:
7 I say unto you, that likewise joy shall be in heaven over one sinner that repenteth, more than over ninety and nine just [righteous ] persons, which need no repentance.
Luke 15:
10 Likewise, I say unto you, there is joy in the presence of the angels of God over one sinner that repenteth.
2 Corinthians 12:
21 And lest, when I come again, my God will humble me among you, and that I shall bewail many which have sinned already, and have not repented of the uncleanness and fornication and lasciviousness which they have committed.
WHAT????????????
Repentance does not mean, "stop sinning." Look it up, preferably in Greek lexicon.
Alright. It's a yes for Seth, gifts are earned.
zerinus
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Good news of the redemption of Jesus Christ, which makes forgiveness of sins possible through faith and repentance.
Which only Calvinists can do, nobody else does.
Already answered. Talking nonsense as usual.