Adam Smith

Ficciones

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"The rich and opulent merchant who does nothing but give a few directions, lives in far greater state and luxury and ease and plenty of all the conveniencies and delicacies of life than his clerks, who do all the business. They too, excepting their confinement, are in a state of ease and plenty far superior to that of the artizan by whose labour these commodities were furnished. The labour of this man too is pretty tollerable; he works under cover protected from the inclemency in the weather, and has his livelyhood in no uncomfortable way if we compare him with the poor labourer. He has all the inconveniencies of the soil and the season to struggle with, is continually exposed to the inclemency of the weather and the most severe labour at the same time. Thus he who as it were supports the whole frame of society and furnishes the means of the convenience and ease of all the rest is himself possessed of a very small share and is buried in obscurity. He bears on his shoulders the whole of mankind, and unable to sustain the load is buried by the weight of it and thrust down into the lowest parts of the earth, from whence he supports all the rest."

- from Lectures on Jurisprudence
 

Ficciones

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If you look at the recent socialist success stories in Bolivia and Chile, it's probably a good thing if Trump is re-elected and the state department remains in disarray. Otherwise they'd be nipping that business in the bud, mister.
 

Furion

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"The rich and opulent merchant who does nothing but give a few directions, lives in far greater state and luxury and ease and plenty of all the conveniencies and delicacies of life than his clerks, who do all the business. They too, excepting their confinement, are in a state of ease and plenty far superior to that of the artizan by whose labour these commodities were furnished. The labour of this man too is pretty tollerable; he works under cover protected from the inclemency in the weather, and has his livelyhood in no uncomfortable way if we compare him with the poor labourer. He has all the inconveniencies of the soil and the season to struggle with, is continually exposed to the inclemency of the weather and the most severe labour at the same time. Thus he who as it were supports the whole frame of society and furnishes the means of the convenience and ease of all the rest is himself possessed of a very small share and is buried in obscurity. He bears on his shoulders the whole of mankind, and unable to sustain the load is buried by the weight of it and thrust down into the lowest parts of the earth, from whence he supports all the rest."

- from Lectures on Jurisprudence
Oh my goodness, this needs a major update for 2020.

In 2020 America, the only people enduring the elements are people who choose to work outside.

The forgotten today are the janitors and maintenance workers, who can make really good money so as to not bear the burden of living in the elements, thus soiling their $350 Nike shoes. They support the modern world. Just have a janitor not clean your bathrooms for a week and you'll get it. They even own houses and cars n stuff.

While I feel for those long ago peasants, who you see in hollywood movies out in the field, picking at grass or something. Seriously, what's up with that.

Yes, those poor hapless souls of yesteryears fiefdoms and monarchs had it hard.

The only people today who have it hard are people that refuse to work hard. In the modern world, we even help people who cannot work. Even with that liberals figured out a way to kick these people to the curb, claiming we cannot hold mental patients against their will. Can't be sorry about that, nope.

I suppose coal miners are forced to the lower parts of the earth. They can always quit and work as a janitor or maintenance worker.
 

Authentic Nouveau

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If you look at the recent socialist success stories in Bolivia and Chile, it's probably a good thing if Trump is re-elected and the state department remains in disarray. Otherwise they'd be nipping that business in the bud, mister.
Your first post 250 years ago. Second 100 years ago. Are you that far behind?
Correlation coefficients in economics have shifted a few times in the past 4 years.
You are a math outsider.
 

Ficciones

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"Labor is, in the first place, a process in which both man and nature participate, and in which man of his own accord starts, regulates, and controls the material reactions between himself and nature. He opposes himself to nature as one of her own forces, setting in motion arms and legs, head and hands, the natural forces of his body, in order to appropriate nature’s production in a form adapted to his own wants. By thus acting on the external world and changing it, he at the same time changes his own nature. He develops his slumbering powers and compels them to act in obedience to his sway." - Karl Marx, Capital
 

Furion

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"Labor is, in the first place, a process in which both man and nature participate, and in which man of his own accord starts, regulates, and controls the material reactions between himself and nature. He opposes himself to nature as one of her own forces, setting in motion arms and legs, head and hands, the natural forces of his body, in order to appropriate nature’s production in a form adapted to his own wants. By thus acting on the external world and changing it, he at the same time changes his own nature. He develops his slumbering powers and compels them to act in obedience to his sway." - Karl Marx, Capital
I can now envision ole Karl donning the Mr. Rogers sweater to teach the Ficciones of the world how to make arms, legs and poop obey his commands.
 

Furion

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Biden says they can learn to code.
Yep. For those incapable of simple tasks, they should learn to code.

And if even that fails, all it takes to be an administrator for Twitter and Facebook is breathing.

The truly braindead can get in line to be the next Democrat presidential nominee.
 

Ficciones

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"The man whose whole life is spent in performing a few simple operations, of which the effects are perhaps always the same, or very nearly the same, has no occasion to exert his understanding or to exercise his invention in finding out expedients for removing difficulties which never occur. He naturally loses, therefore, the habit of such exertion, and generally becomes as stupid and ignorant as it is possible for a human creature to become."

― Adam Smith, An Inquiry into the Nature and Causes of the Wealth of Nations

"Owing to the extensive use of machinery, and to the division of labour, the work of the proletarians has lost all individual character, and, consequently, all charm for the workman. He becomes an appendage of the machine, and it is only the most simple, most monotonous, and most easily acquired knack, that is required of him. Hence, the cost of production of a workman is restricted, almost entirely, to the means of subsistence that he requires for maintenance, and for the propagation of his race. But the price of a commodity, and therefore also of labour, is equal to its cost of production. In proportion, therefore, as the repulsiveness of the work increases, the wage decreases. Nay more, in proportion as the use of machinery and division of labour increases, in the same proportion the burden of toil also increases, whether by prolongation of the working hours, by the increase of the work exacted in a given time or by increased speed of machinery, etc. "

- Marx and Engels, Communist Manifesto
 

Ficciones

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"We're supposed to worship Adam Smith but you're not supposed to read him. That's too dangerous." - Noam Chomsky
 

Authentic Nouveau

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"The rich and opulent merchant who does nothing but give a few directions, lives in far greater state and luxury and ease and plenty of all the conveniencies and delicacies of life than his clerks, who do all the business. They too, excepting their confinement, are in a state of ease and plenty far superior to that of the artizan by whose labour these commodities were furnished. The labour of this man too is pretty tollerable; he works under cover protected from the inclemency in the weather, and has his livelyhood in no uncomfortable way if we compare him with the poor labourer. He has all the inconveniencies of the soil and the season to struggle with, is continually exposed to the inclemency of the weather and the most severe labour at the same time. Thus he who as it were supports the whole frame of society and furnishes the means of the convenience and ease of all the rest is himself possessed of a very small share and is buried in obscurity. He bears on his shoulders the whole of mankind, and unable to sustain the load is buried by the weight of it and thrust down into the lowest parts of the earth, from whence he supports all the rest."

- from Lectures on Jurisprudence
 

Authentic Nouveau

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Yep. For those incapable of simple tasks, they should learn to code.

And if even that fails, all it takes to be an administrator for Twitter and Facebook is breathing.

The truly braindead can get in line to be the next Democrat presidential nominee.

Joe Biden Announces He Will Lead an Effective Strategy to Mobilize ‘Trunalimunumaprzure’​


Biden Babble.
 

Ficciones

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Shootin' blanks. 🤣

"Labour was the first price, the original purchase - money that was paid for all things. It was not by gold or by silver, but by labour, that all wealth of the world was originally purchased." - Adam Smith
 

mica

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Yep. For those incapable of simple tasks, they should learn to code.

And if even that fails, all it takes to be an administrator for Twitter and Facebook is breathing.

The truly braindead can get in line to be the next Democrat presidential nominee.
the left will have lots of options for that...
 
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