Alex Jones lays it out...plain and clear.

Bonnie

Bonnie

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Whateverman said:
I plead the 5th.


I wont put words into your mouth. Whether they're fascists or fanatics can be debated, but I was indirectly trying to distinguish between real political conservativism, and the brand of right-wing ideology so popular in this forum. We don't have very much of the former here...

edit: I was also defending you a bit; the idea that you go around disagreeing with "conservatives" is stupid nonsense.
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I appreciate the defense. I get tired of being told I am something I am not, or that I do things I do not do...but that IS a good point about distinguishing between true political conservative values and right wing ideology we see here. Apparently some of the
righter wingers here think that if I disagree with their ideas about covid and the vaccine, they automatically think I MUST be a left winger. I have even been called a Marxist because I don't like Gateway Pundit. How....foolish is that?
 
Whateverman

Whateverman

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Bonnie said:
I appreciate the defense. I get tired of being told I am something I am not, or that I do things I do not do...but that IS a good point about distinguishing between true political conservative values and right wing ideology we see here. Apparently some of the
righter wingers here think that if I disagree with their ideas about covid and the vaccine, they automatically think I MUST be a left winger. I have even been called a Marxist because I don't like Gateway Pundit. How....foolish is that?
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Foolish, but consistent.

When I first arrived at this forum as a deist, I was repeatedly labeled an atheist simply because I questioned Christian doctrine (as it was being described here). Many people are fond of mischaracterizing those they disagree with...
 
Bonnie

Bonnie

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Whateverman said:
Foolish, but consistent.

When I first arrived at this forum as a deist, I was repeatedly labeled an atheist simply because I questioned Christian doctrine (as it was being described here). Many people are fond of mischaracterizing those they disagree with...
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You last line seems to be true. My beliefs over the years on here have been misrepresented on the Mormon, CATH, and Apologetics boards. Why should this board be any different?
 
Whateverman

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Bonnie said:
My beliefs over the years on here have been misrepresented on the Mormon, CATH, and Apologetics boards. Why should this board be any different?
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I think something cultural happened in the US, in the last few decades. People seem less interested in understanding the views of those they disagree with; it's much easier to dismiss them with an insult than listen to and honestly critique what they say.

This has been going on since humans were alive, but it seems to have become almost SOP now. Perhaps the ascendance of internet discussion caused it? I dunno...
 
Electric Skeptic

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Bonnie said:
Ah! We watched the video on TV, but that was years ago and I don't remember any of the songs.
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They are wonderful. A tip: don't watch the movie (with Merryl Streep). Track down the recording of the Broadway production (with Bernadette Peters). Far superior (IMO).
 
Bonnie

Bonnie

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Whateverman said:
I think something cultural happened in the US, in the last few decades. People seem less interested in understanding the views of those they disagree with; it's much easier to dismiss them with an insult than listen to and honestly critique what they say.

This has been going on since humans were alive, but it seems to have become almost SOP now. Perhaps the ascendance of internet discussion caused it? I dunno...
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Could be...it is much easier to disagree and be nasty about it, anonymously, on the Internet, than face to face.
 
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Bonnie

Bonnie

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Electric Skeptic said:
They are wonderful. A tip: don't watch the movie (with Merryl Streep). Track down the recording of the Broadway production (with Bernadette Peters). Far superior (IMO).
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Well, we have seen it before on video. But Peter's does have a great voice...ever see and hear her in the updated version of Roger's and Hammerstein's CINDERELLA on TV, back in 1997, I think it was?
 
Electric Skeptic

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Bonnie said:
Well, we have seen it before on video. But Peter's does have a great voice...ever see and hear her in the updated version of Roger's and Hammerstein's CINDERELLA on TV, back in 1997, I think it was?
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No, I didn't - I'd have loved to. She's more or less known on Broadway for being the pre-eminent interpreter of Sondheim's work. Her witch in Into The Woods is magnificent.
 
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CrowCross said:
Covid was made for the jab.
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You’re convinced, ok. I can’t change your mind, but what if you’re wrong? Would it bother you if you convinced many people and it was just a conspiracy theory like chem trails or Qanon claims that never happen? It’s a serious question.
 
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Backup

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Bonnie said:
I appreciate the defense. I get tired of being told I am something I am not, or that I do things I do not do...but that IS a good point about distinguishing between true political conservative values and right wing ideology we see here. Apparently some of the
righter wingers here think that if I disagree with their ideas about covid and the vaccine, they automatically think I MUST be a left winger. I have even been called a Marxist because I don't like Gateway Pundit. How....foolish is that?
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These new Trump cultists and conspiracy theorists are not conservative. They are something new. I doubt William F. Buckley would have cared much for these people.
 
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Backup

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Whateverman said:
I think something cultural happened in the US, in the last few decades. People seem less interested in understanding the views of those they disagree with; it's much easier to dismiss them with an insult than listen to and honestly critique what they say.

This has been going on since humans were alive, but it seems to have become almost SOP now. Perhaps the ascendance of internet discussion caused it? I dunno...
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Yes, I know lots of moderate Republicans that think all Democrats are AntiFa terrorists/Communists and lots of Democrats that think all Republicans are MAGA, Jan. 6th terrorists/Nazis.

But to be fair, the right-wingers on this forum are much more anti-intellectual and radical than any Republicans or Evangelical Christians I know in real life.
 
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Authentic Nouveau

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Backup said:
Yes, I know lots of moderate Republicans that think all Democrats are AntiFa terrorists/Communists and lots of Democrats that think all Republicans are MAGA, Jan. 6th terrorists/Nazis.

But to be fair, the right-wingers on this forum are much more anti-intellectual and radical than any Republicans or Evangelical Christians I know in real life.
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I notice Alex Jones mimics you except he does 20 times more research.
 
Bonnie

Bonnie

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Electric Skeptic said:
No, I didn't - I'd have loved to. She's more or less known on Broadway for being the pre-eminent interpreter of Sondheim's work. Her witch in Into The Woods is magnificent.
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Say, see if you can get the TV Cinderella on Netflix.. I think Peters played the wicked stepmother. It was lots of fun! First time I heard Jason Alexander sing...he was good!
 
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