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I see.....
So when you falsely accuse ME of "taking out of context", it's perfectly fine.
But when I (rightly) accuse YOU, it's suddenly "a child's refrain".
Whatever....
I've noticed over the years that many people accuse others of what they are personally guilty of, so when they themselves get (rightly) accused, they can make the same insulting response.
It's quite fascinating, actually...
For some reason you avoided the bulk of my previous reply
'm not ignoring any context.
Quite the contrary, YOU are.
This sounds like a child's refrain
No I am not but you are
Lets not forget your effort to do theology by pop music
Appearently you did or want to
Theo1689 said:
I'm not the one "eschewing scripture".
YOU are.
Oh Did you imagine everyone was kung fu fighting is scripture
trying to mkount an argument regarding scriptural content based on pop music is an absurd effort
And it does ignore context so my claim was true
Not only did you ignore the scriptures you ignore context as well
Remember how you failed to address John 12:47
remember how you failed to address the scriptural uses and the meaning of especially I took from scripture
Theo1689 said:
It's simply a relevant example of how terms are used.
Which of course ignores context of scripture and BAGD which was quoted
Including your failure to address
John 12:47 (KJV)
47 And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Its relationship to
John 3:17 (KJV)
17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
In the context
John 3:14-18 (KJV)
14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up:
15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.
16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
and of course BAGD
b. of all mankind, but especially of believers, as the object of God’s love J 3:16, 17c; 6:33, 51; 12:47.
William Arndt et al., A Greek-English Lexicon of the New Testament and Other Early Christian Literature : A Translation and Adaption of the Fourth Revised and Augmented Edition of Walter Bauer’s Griechisch-Deutsches Worterbuch Zu Den Schrift En Des Neuen Testaments Und Der Ubrigen Urchristlichen Literatur (Chicago: University of Chicago Press, 1979), 446.
and your obvious mishandling of especially as shown by scripture
2 Timothy 4:13 (KJV)
13 The cloke that I left at Troas with Carpus, when thou comest, bring
with thee, and the books,
but especially the parchments.
It simply does not eliminate that which is not especially noted
Were Timothy to understand especially in the faulty manner you proclaim he would have left the cloak and the books and only bought the parchments
but you simply ignore all that
and wanted to do theology based on a foreign context of pop music
Theo1689 said:
But if you prefer the Bible:
Luke 2:1 And it came to pass in those days, that there went out a decree from Caesar Augustus, that
all the world should be taxed.
Was "all the world" taxed?
Did the Chinese pay taxes to Caesar?
Did the Australian aborigines pay taxes to Caesar?
I mean, "all the world" means EVERYONE, right?
See above
Deal with the evidence you ran from last discussion
Evidence which is actually relevant to the scope of discussion
The meaning of world in soteriological and atonement passages
not some irrelevant context
again you were guilty of ignoring the evidence and the context of same