Amidst the Bickering over Rom 7, Don't Lose Sight of the Fact Christians Still Sin ...

[Howie]

1 Jn 1:8, et. al.

 

[PeanutGallery]

Rom 6:1 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?

Apparently, we have a choice to sin or not.

 

[fltom]

1 Jn 1:8, et. al.

No one questions that

What they question is your idea a Christian may be a slave to sin

 

[Reformedguy]

Rom 6:1 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?

Apparently, we have a choice to sin or not.

Who says otherwise?

 

[Howie]

Rom 6:1 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?

Apparently, we have a choice to sin or not.

Amen.

 

[Howie]

No one questions that

What they question is your idea a Christian may be a slave to sin

"May be" being the operative words. Jesus does say, "everyone who sins is a slave of sin," isn't that correct?

 

[fltom]

"May be" being the operative words. Jesus does say, "everyone who sins is a slave of sin," isn't that correct?

But he does not mention a believer being a slave to sin

you read that into the text

 

[Howie]

But he does not mention a believer being a slave to sin

you read that into the text

There's that argument from silence fallacy again.

 

[Reformedguy]

edit per mod

Uh oh. Best head back to do some more praying

 

[Reformedguy]

There's that argument from silence fallacy again.

Exactly.

 

[fltom]

Diversion and complex question fallacy .

Complex Question Fallacy—Definition and Examples​

• Occupation: English And Rhetoric Professor
• Estimated Reading Time: 4 mins
• Author: Richard Nordquist

Updated on July 13, 2018 A complex question is a fallacy in which the answer to a given question presupposes a prior answer to a prior question. Also known as (or closely related to) a loaded question, a trick question, a leading question, the fallacy of the false question, and the fallacy of many questions . "Have you stopped beating your wife?"

 

[Howie]

Complex Question Fallacy—Definition and Examples​

• Occupation: English And Rhetoric Professor
• Estimated Reading Time: 4 mins
• Author: Richard Nordquist

Updated on July 13, 2018 A complex question is a fallacy in which the answer to a given question presupposes a prior answer to a prior question. Also known as (or closely related to) a loaded question, a trick question, a leading question, the fallacy of the false question, and the fallacy of many questions . "Have you stopped beating your wife?"

The OP doesn't ask a question, it asserts a Biblical truth. ?

 

[fltom]

The OP doesn't ask a question, it asserts a Biblical truth. ?

What has that to do with my posting of the definition of a complex question fallacy

 

[fltom]

The red herring fallacy strikes again ?

? ? ?

 

[Reformedguy]

The OP doesn't ask a question, it asserts a Biblical truth. ?

Notice they do not show exactly where the logical is committed.

 

[fltom]

Notice they do not show exactly where the logical is committed.

What is a logical?

 

[Reformedguy]

What is a logical?

Rabbit trail time. Point out where the fallacy occurs.

 

[fltom]

Rabbit trail time. Point out where the fallacy occurs.

No, I simply defined what a complex question fallacy was

 

[Reformedguy]

All of the questions and none of the answers . There is a fallacy for that ?

Name it

 

[Reformedguy]

No, I simply defined what a complex question fallacy was

I appreciate that. I simply do not see where it has occurred in this thread. Certainly not in the OP