An Atheistic Death Cult

[BMS]

You mischaracterized what she said, and that's not a good look for someone who wants to be seen as a Christian.

She never suggested that "anything she says is true". She said (paraphrased) she's an atheist, no matter what you say.

Christian fundamentalists like to put words into the mouths of the people they're trying to demonize.



That's not in any way fanatical. Again, you're mischaracterizing what she said.

Seems like she was reacting angrily to someone interested in telling her what she thinks. Fundagelicals do that a lot...


That's because you're only seeing what you want to. IIDB is atheistic, but you never even came close to showing it to be cult-like. I suppose if the mischaracterized opinions of one person can be evidence they belong to a cult, then you belong to a cult, too.

Depends what you mean demonize

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1708464724243861817

Obviously different people see demonizing people as love is love

 

[BMS]

I've read her quoted text, as well as the thread of conversation you two engaged in over at IIDB. I can nowhere find where she "threatened you with violence because of" your "opinion".

And... even if she did, that's not enough information to decide whether she was "fanatical" or not. Threatening with violence a member of the KKK whose opinion is that the holocaust should have killed my Jewish neighbor - isn't fanatical. It may be offensive or even illegal - but not fanatical.

Context is everything...


You mischaracterized what she wrote in the quoted text. That's not even "truthy"...

Depends what you mean

How can we have a proper debate when we no longer speak the same language?

In the culture wars, hypersensitivity and accusations of ‘hate’ risk leading us into an Orwellian future

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[Tetsugaku]

No definitely for destroying all the false theories and beliefs that cant be defended.

How would you know what SBTL was banned for? Is he your sockpuppet account?

 

[BMS]

How would you know what SBTL was banned for? Is he your sockpuppet account?

How would you know?

 

[Tetsugaku]

How would you know?

How would I know what?

 

[BMS]

The people there should be open to hearing opposing viewpoints or they are not good representatives of atheism.

I don't like the idea of people infringing on my rights. I don't think doing those things on a discussion board is the right way to go about it.

Forked tongue. Then you shouldnt be supporting so called 'transgender rights' that deny women's rights

 

[BMS]

How would I know what?

strange question
How would you know what he has been through apart from the accounts given?

 

[Tetsugaku]

strange question
How would you know what he has been through apart from the accounts given?

I was asking SBTL what reason he was given for being banned from other discussion forums.

I have no idea what you're talking about, or why you claimed to know the answer.

 

[BMS]

I was asking SBTL what reason he was given for being banned from other discussion forums.

I have no idea what you're talking about, or why you claimed to know the answer.

Ugh? From post #20 SBTL and some of us having been sharing how we have been banned for sharing beliefs.
I gave you the examples of others who have been constantly attacked simply for stating facts that offend some people.

 

[Tetsugaku]

Ugh? From post #20 SBTL and some of us having been sharing how we have been banned for sharing beliefs.
I gave you the examples of others who have been constantly attacked simply for stating facts that offend some people.

I wasn't asking about any of that.

 

[BMS]

I have no idea what you're talking about, or why you claimed to know the answer.

Ok.so do you believe in transgender ideology? It could be that, that prevents communication between us. See my post #42

 

[Tetsugaku]

Ok.so do you believe in transgender ideology? It could be that, that prevents communication between us. See my post #42

No, that topic has nothing at all to do with anything I've been discussing. I know it's your personal hobby horse, but it is of no relevance here.

 

[BMS]

No, that topic has nothing at all to do with anything I've been discussing. I know it's your personal hobby horse, but it is of no relevance here.

Well it is if you believe in 'transgender' ideology, because its delusion and if you believe in that you could believe in anything.
Indeed, as the eminent evolutionary biologist Richard Dawkins points out on this topic, different people claiming new meanings for things based on feelings rather than empirical evidence means we cant conmunicate properly.

 

[BMS]

I wasn't asking about any of that.

See my previous post.. so I am not sure what you are asking. Can you clarify please?

 

[Tetsugaku]

Well it is if...

It isn't.

 

[Tetsugaku]

See my previous post.. so I am not sure what you are asking. Can you clarify please?

It's really not important. I was just curious why you were answering on behalf of SBTL for the reasons why he had been banned from other forums.

 

[BMS]

It's really not important. I was just curious why you were answering on behalf of SBTL for the reasons why he had been banned from other forums.

Because unknown soldier, steveb, sbtl and I all know what is going on.. I mean we have even given examples of the same cancelling and banning free speech in society.

 

[BMS]

It isn't.

What isnt? Do you mean you dont support 'transgender' ideology so it cant be that logic?

 

[BMS]

It's really not important. I was just curious why you were answering on behalf of SBTL for the reasons why he had been banned from other forums.

It is important, free speech is important.
Where I would disagree is to blame atheists as we see from last couple of links I have made atheists are getting banned as well.
The big culprit is woke lgbt with trans as the point of the spear, because we see gays and particularly lesbians getting banned and cancelled.
Take this for example

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1708778524939620809

The Police guidelines (not the law) are that people should report hate speech, being, where something is causing them distress... a suitably subjective descriptio.
Well the police should be impartial yet if one reports the lgbtqi+ badge they are wearing as causing anxiety or distress they will probably arrest you.

See. Simple

 

[SteveB]

I never did the drugs, rock and roll, partying thing etc. I've never taken an illegal drug in my life.

🤭 congratulations! You're more righteous than I was. Pity it won't save you.
Especially when YHVH said,
Isa 64:6 WEB For we have all become like one who is unclean, and all our righteousness is like a polluted garment. We all fade like a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, take us away.
Indeed, the guy who wrote this down, upon seeing YHVH, he stated
Isa 6:5 WEB Then I said, “Woe is me! For I am undone, because I am a man of unclean lips and I live among a people of unclean lips, for my eyes have seen the King, Yahweh of Armies!”

so, your unbelief is corroborated proof that you never actually met YHVH or Jesus.
we who meet him see ourselves as we really are. Ugliness, stupidity, laziness, arrogance, ignorance and all....
most of the people i hung out with were drug and alcohol users, and abusers.

I have an alcoholic beverage very rarely.

good for you. you enjoy your sobriety.

I have never tried smoking.

Yeah, not a good habit. I watched my mom die of lung cancer with metastasis to the brain. I have a few distant relatives died of lung cancer.

I don't really like parties.

ok.

I basically went to college, studied hard, got good grades, got my diploma, and left.

again, good for you. That wasn't an option in my family.

Maybe if you had not screwed up your life you would not have had a need to escape into religion.

Wow. So arrogant. I'm sure glad I'm not as righteous as you are.
I left religion in 1971, when I was in the 5th grade.
I met Jesus in 1977.
The difference between biblical Christianity and religion is that we're adopted by YHVH as children. Jesus said that we're his brothers and sisters.

There are ultra-lib christian denominations that are not too bad.

ultra-lib is not christianity. That's the epitome of man-made religion.

But for the most part christianity is about death, suffering, revenge, crucifixion, torture, heaven, hell, salvation.

Actually, Jesus discusses these things.
so, it seems like you never actually read the Bible for yourself.

You don't understand how miserable this all is until you get out of it.

and since you are a moralist, you have no idea how miserable moralism is until you escape it, and learn what a genuinely godly life is.

But, if you weren't actually regenerated by the Holy Spirit and YHVH's Word, then yes. You're absolutely correct. The truth, and God's Spirit are convicting you of your sin and the need to turn to YHVH from your sin and place your trust in Jesus so you can escape condemnation because of your sin.

All you've done is walk away from religion. You haven't actually resolved the real problem. Your sin and the need for cleansing, the removal of your old stony heart, a new heart and a new spirit, along with YHVH's Spirit dwelling in you to give you the wherewithal to successfully engage and live a life that is pleasing and honorable to YHVH.

Now I can focus on happier positive things.

now you can focus on what you think are happier, and positive things are.
YHVH has explained to us how to live an honorable life which he actually finds pleasing.

I am surprised, with just the amount of times you tell people they are going to hell, that this does not make you miserable.

This just shows that you never actually understood biblical Christianity.
I have been forgiven, and made new on the inside. I have been cleansed, and he's removed my old stony heart and given me a new heart and a new spirit, and His Holy Spirit dwells inside me, causing me to live a life that honors, and satisfies him. And for the times I screw up, he gives me the wherewithal and resources to resolve the problems.
He's adopted me as a son, and Jesus is my adopted brother and they daily teach me the truth I need to live a godly, satisfying and joyful life.

I have an app on my phone that allows me to "paint." One picture I just finished is a person, sitting on their patio, resting on a patio chair. They are laying their head back, eyes closed, soaking in the sunshine and relaxing.

I get this kind of thing daily, "kicking back" and basking in the Love of YHVH in Jesus.
I get to experience the love and joy of YHVH constantly. So do everyone who comes to YHVH and places their trust in Jesus.

I think christianity has so twisted your normal subjective moral values you cannot tell right from wrong, you cannot tell true happiness from unhappiness.

Ironically, this is exactly what he says about your views.

Psa 18: 25 With the merciful you will show yourself merciful. With the perfect man, you will show yourself perfect. 26 With the pure, you will show yourself pure. With the morally bankrupt you will appear as perverse. 27 For you will save the afflicted people, but the arrogant eyes you will bring down.

We further read
Isa 26: 10 Let favor be shown to the wicked, yet he will not learn righteousness. In the land of uprightness he will deal wrongfully, and will not see Yahweh’s majesty. 11 Yahweh, your hand is lifted up, yet they don’t see; but they will see your zeal for the people and be disappointed. Yes, fire will consume your adversaries.

so, yeah..... your thinking makes perfect sense. To you... godliness is perverse, and vile. What it actually shows is that you have abandoned genuine righteousness.

There is no hope for you unless something catastrophic jars you out of your christian induced stupor.

🤔
So, stage four metastatic melanoma cancer, which kept coming back over and over again wasn't catastrophic enough?
losing friends, watching family members die of cancer, a drunk driver, black ice which severed their head from their neck, diabetic kidney failure, and numerous other issues doesn't rise to the level of catastrophic to you?
Because they seemed quite catastrophic to me and my family....

Indeed, to my pastor, at the time. He came to me back in the early 00's, and told me-- we have no idea how to help you through this time. We have never met anyone who has suffered as much as you have in your life.
Thankfully, Jesus is my Hope and anchor within the veil.
 

No. Unfortunately you have given up a life of peace, fulfillment, and happiness for a future hope in a heaven that will never come.

🤣 you must be the most inexperienced and naive individual on this forum! How old are you?
i daily enjoy shalom shalom! In English, this is described as perfect peace. Isaiah 26:3-4.
In Phillipians 4, we read that YHVH's Peace will act like a military guard, or sentry, protecting my mind and heart, which he describes as peace that surpasses human understanding.
He further stated that he will give us his angels to act as a protective detail, for everyone who fears him.
So, it sounds like you're trying to call YHVH a liar.
Just because you chose to never actually met YHVH doesn't mean he doesn't exist. It does however mean that you excluded yourself from the magnitude of the benefits he gives his adopted children. All because of what Jesus did on the cross for us.

As it's written,

2Pe 1: 2 Grace to you and peace be multiplied in the knowledge of God and of Jesus our Lord, 3 seeing that his divine power has granted to us all things that pertain to life and godliness, through the knowledge of him who called us by his own glory and virtue, 4 by which he has granted to us his precious and exceedingly great promises; that through these you may become partakers of the divine nature, having escaped from the corruption that is in the world by lust.

I am sorry to hear that. In this life people make their own choices and live (or die) with the consequences.

Indeed. Which is exactly why I choose to follow Jesus.