Anti free speech Nazis strike again

Backup said:
nobody likes bigots

except maybe other bigots

I certainly don't hang around with racists and homophobes, and I get invited to all the nice parties.
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A hallmark of an extremist society is not just that it doesnt tolerate different opinions, but that it has to punish people..... especially cruel when they merely affirm observable fact
 
Faithoverbelief said:
I don't encourage anything, I simply state that you have zero protections of free speech when dealing with private business. You can't walk into a family restaurant and start speaking what the owner considers speech they don't like. They can call the police and have you escorted. Twitter suspends and bans carm suspends and bans.
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Good point except with Jordan Peterson what twitter rule or guideline did he break?
Is it that on a Christian forum like carm one cant criticise Christianity and on a public forum like twitter one cant criticise transactivism?
 
BMS said:
Good point except with Jordan Peterson what twitter rule or guideline did he break?
Is it that on a Christian forum like carm one cant criticise Christianity and on a public forum like twitter one cant criticise transactivism?
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Twitter has their rules and I posted them. They have determined his speech was hateful and attacking. Why don't you email Twitter and ask?
 
Faithoverbelief said:
I'm not sure if you can or not.
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No you cannot. It's discrimination. What give the right to twitter to discriminate against different views from their own? Their rules are discriminatory. And thus should be challenged in court.

Faithoverbelief said:
www-nbcnews-com.cdn.ampproject.org

Supreme Court to decide whether some businesses can refuse to serve gay customers

The case involves a Colorado website designer who wants to refuse services for same-sex weddings.
www-nbcnews-com.cdn.ampproject.org www-nbcnews-com.cdn.ampproject.org

I guess we'll find out.
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Its like the incident with the cake. Gays wanted a Christian store to make them a cake. They refused on religious grounds protected by the constitution.

There are all other kinds of places they can shop.
 
wiseones2cents said:
No you cannot. It's discrimination. What give the right to twitter to discriminate against different views from their own? Their rules are discriminatory. And thus should be challenged in court.


Its like the incident with the cake. Gays wanted a Christian store to make them a cake. They refused on religious grounds protected by the constitution.

There are all other kinds of places they can shop.
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Well I side with private businesses. If someone does not want to make a cake for any reason so be it, allow the free market to work. Same with social media sites allow them to ban who they want and allow the free market to decide.
 
You see as soon as religious rights were granted, when they wanted to grant lgb rights they had to limit the right, so it was no longer the right that was granted.
Same now with trans, it limits the rights granted to gays and lesbians
 
BMS said:
You see as soon as religious rights were granted, when they wanted to grant lgb rights they had to limit the right, so it was no longer the right that was granted.
Same now with trans, it limits the rights granted to gays and lesbians
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Christianity is a lot more than just hating LBGTQ people.

Most Christians in America support gay marriage.

Only White Evangelical don't.


"Most major religious denominations back marriage equality, too, including white mainline Protestants (79 percent), Hispanic Roman Catholics (78 percent), religious non-Christians (72 percent) Hispanic Protestants (68 percent), white Catholics (67 percent), Black Protestants (57 percent) and other Christian denominations (56 percent).

Religiously unaffiliated Americans were the most supportive, with 90 percent endorsing same-sex marriage.

White evangelicals stood out as the only denomination where a majority opposed same-sex marriage, 63 percent to 34 percent. Support decreased among this group, according to PRRI, which found 41 percent of white evangelicals supported gay marriage in a 2019 survey."
 
Backup said:
Christianity is a lot more than just hating LBGTQ people.
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In fact, it has nothing to do with that at all…
Backup said:
Most Christians in America support gay marriage.
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I think that judgment is best withheld until Christ separates the sheep from the goats.
Backup said:
Only White Evangelical don't.
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From what I can see you don't like white people or evangelicals, so I'm not entirely sure you can be objective on this point.
Backup said:
"Most major religious denominations back marriage equality, too, including white mainline Protestants (79 percent), Hispanic Roman Catholics (78 percent), religious non-Christians (72 percent) Hispanic Protestants (68 percent), white Catholics (67 percent), Black Protestants (57 percent) and other Christian denominations (56 percent).

Religiously unaffiliated Americans were the most supportive, with 90 percent endorsing same-sex marriage.
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If only creating universes was easier. Then all these people could get together and create a universe in which marriage is whatever they say it is. Almost seems unfair that all these people have to live in this universe that God made, with God's definition for marriage.
Backup said:
White evangelicals stood out as the only denomination
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I don't mean to get too technical here, but believing Matthew 28:19-20 is not a unique distinctive of any one particular denomination.
Backup said:
where a majority opposed same-sex marriage, 63 percent to 34 percent.
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Which is not too surprising with the crowd that actually obeys Christ's commandments…
Backup said:
Support decreased among this group, according to PRRI, which found 41 percent of white evangelicals supported gay marriage in a 2019 survey."
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Any group like the PRRI which calls themselves a "an American nonprofit, nonpartisan research and education organization that conducts public opinion polls" is obviously a bunch of left-wing kooks that's in the business of providing arguing fodder for other left-wing kooks much like yourself…
 
Backup said:
Christianity is a lot more than just hating LBGTQ people.

Most Christians in America support gay marriage.

Only White Evangelical don't.


"Most major religious denominations back marriage equality, too, including white mainline Protestants (79 percent), Hispanic Roman Catholics (78 percent), religious non-Christians (72 percent) Hispanic Protestants (68 percent), white Catholics (67 percent), Black Protestants (57 percent) and other Christian denominations (56 percent).

Religiously unaffiliated Americans were the most supportive, with 90 percent endorsing same-sex marriage.

White evangelicals stood out as the only denomination where a majority opposed same-sex marriage, 63 percent to 34 percent. Support decreased among this group, according to PRRI, which found 41 percent of white evangelicals supported gay marriage in a 2019 survey."
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Propaganda. Most Christians in the world are not white westerners, nor do they see the world though woke group identity like the culture and you do. But I used the example of the infighting in lgbt as an example.
Unlike you I dont look to what different people claim and choose which one feels best, but look to the evidence and reasoning as to what is right.
 
Backup said:
Christianity is a lot more than just hating LBGTQ people.
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There is no such thing as lgbt people in Christianity. Homosexual acts are sin in Christianity.
I have this week just arranged a reunion at a football match with a previous colleague at work who is in a ssm, so are you implying I am not a Christian.
There is a distinct difference between a person and their behaviour/beliefs. Are homosexuals people who have same sex attraction or people who agree with your ideology?
 
Twitter does not seem to be suspending posters who hate terfs but does seem to be suspending people like Peterson and Fox for stating biological facts. Can we assune therefore that CARM is a Christian forum and Twitter is a transactivist forum?
 
Faithoverbelief said:
The right to freedom of speech allows individuals to express themselves without government interference or regulation. The Supreme Court requires the government to provide substantial justification for the interference with the right of free speech where it attempts to regulate the content of the speech.

Note;government :Twitter is NOT government his free speech has NOT been violated because he doesn't have free speech with Twitter.
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Exactly. Assuming the government doesn't get involved, there is no right to "free speech" at Twitter or even at this forum. It's rather pathetic that the champions of the US constitution here STILL don't understand what the document says.
 
mikeT said:
Exactly. Assuming the government doesn't get involved, there is no right to "free speech" at Twitter or even at this forum. It's rather pathetic that the champions of the US constitution here STILL don't understand what the document says.
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Sure Twitter has every right to lie when telling us what they are.
 
mikeT said:
Exactly. Assuming the government doesn't get involved, there is no right to "free speech" at Twitter or even at this forum. It's rather pathetic that the champions of the US constitution here STILL don't understand what the document says.
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That is ok then as you dont see free speech. Do you think free speech should be allowed?
 
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