Apologetics vs One's Integrity

Dant01

Dant01

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I've discovered that the hardest part of discussing the integrity of apologizers with
apologizers is getting past their knee-jerk natural reaction to critical analyses of
their beliefs.

The knee-jerk I'm talking about is their ad hominem personal attacks upon critics.
In other words: apologizers tend to become preachy and fiercely judgmental.
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John t

Super Member
Dant01 said:
Below are some additional questions that God is likely to ask along with the two
listed in the OP.

"Was there ever a time when you felt that I should've stepped in to prevent the
Serpent from tempting Eve?"

"Was there ever a time when you resented My control over your life?"

"Was there ever a time when you were dissatisfied with Hades and/or the Lake Of
Fire? In other words: was there a time when you felt those punishments go too far,
i.e. they're over-kill; too extreme.
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For such an inane statement of questions, your parameters for others answering in insufficient.

Since God sent His to save the world, and not condemn it, He will not have time to answer such foolish questions as you pose.

You see, The purpose of the entire Bible centers on Jesus Christ, and until you understand that, your spiritual blindness will continue unabated. This is just anoother example of your placing your "reasoning" above the knowledge and might of our Creator.. a such, it is doomed to failure
 
Dizerner

Dizerner

Well-known member
Dant01 said:
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I've discovered that the hardest part of discussing the integrity of apologizers with
apologizers is getting past their knee-jerk natural reaction to critical analyses of
their beliefs.

The knee-jerk I'm talking about is their ad hominem personal attacks upon critics.
In other words: apologizers tend to become preachy and fiercely judgmental.
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You don't seem to want to discuss your integrity so why do you want to criticize others for the same thing?
 
Dant01

Dant01

Active member
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Dizerner said:
You don't seem to want to discuss your integrity so why do you want to criticize
others for the same thing?
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Please try to answer the questions with a simple Yes or a No without embellishing
them with recriminations.

Thank You.
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Dant01

Dant01

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Slyzr said:
Answer your own op ...... With a simple yes ... or no.
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1» Was there ever a time when you felt that God should've stepped in to prevent
the Serpent from tempting Eve?

YES

2» Was there ever a time when you resented God's control over your life?

YES

3» Was there ever a time when you were dissatisfied with Hades and/or the Lake Of
Fire? In other words: was there a time when you felt those punishments go too far,
i.e. they're over-kill; too extreme.

YES

4» God knew in advance that He would regret creating humankind, and that He
would be drowning most of it in a global deluge; yet went ahead and created people
anyway. Has there ever been a time when you felt there was something sick and
twisted about God for doing that?

YES

5» Was there ever a time when you felt that some of God's actions were
unreasonable, unfair, inhumane, selfish, cruel, and/or the work of a mad man?

YES

6» Was there ever a time when you wished God didn't exist?

YES
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Slyzr

Well-known member
Dant01 said:
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1» Was there ever a time when you felt that God should've stepped in to prevent
the Serpent from tempting Eve?

YES

2» Was there ever a time when you resented God's control over your life?

YES

3» Was there ever a time when you were dissatisfied with Hades and/or the Lake Of
Fire? In other words: was there a time when you felt those punishments go too far,
i.e. they're over-kill; too extreme.

YES

4» God knew in advance that He would regret creating humankind, and that He
would be drowning most of it in a global deluge; yet went ahead and created people
anyway. Has there ever been a time when you felt there was something sick and
twisted about God for doing that?

YES

5» Was there ever a time when you felt that some of God's actions were
unreasonable, unfair, inhumane, selfish, cruel, and/or the work of a mad man?

YES

6» Was there ever a time when you wished God didn't exist?

YES
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"God" is so post to want something better ........

The issue is .... then no one matters.

Kind of like a snake eating his own tail.

Not sure that is god though ..... seems more like satan.
 
Dant01

Dant01

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Rom 8:7-8 testifies that humanity is quite by nature hostile to God. So I propose
adding another question to my original list of six.

7» Was there ever a time when you regarded God as an enemy rather than a friend?

As before, try to answer the question with a simple Yes or a No

NOTE: Neither the question in this post, nor the questions listed in post No.56
inquire how you feel about God today; in the now, i.e. they're deliberately worded
to inquire about your past; before you were enlightened.
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Dizerner

Dizerner

Well-known member
Slyzr said:
Not when they are against you.

They tend to want something better ...... but that "better" tends to be we do not matter.
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The beautiful thing about Jesus is he died for his enemies and love those who don't love him.

Who do you know like that?
 
Dizerner

Dizerner

Well-known member
Well, I will humor you if it will somehow make you happy, although I don't think it's great dialogue.


1» Was there ever a time when you felt that God should've stepped in to prevent
the Serpent from tempting Eve?

Yes.

2» Was there ever a time when you resented God's control over your life?

No.

3» Was there ever a time when you were dissatisfied with Hades and/or the Lake Of
Fire? In other words: was there a time when you felt those punishments go too far,
i.e. they're over-kill; too extreme.

Yes.

4» God knew in advance that He would regret creating humankind, and that He
would be drowning most of it in a global deluge; yet went ahead and created people
anyway. Has there ever been a time when you felt there was something sick and
twisted about God for doing that?

Yes.

5» Was there ever a time when you felt that some of God's actions were
unreasonable, unfair, inhumane, selfish, cruel, and/or the work of a mad man?

Yes.

6» Was there ever a time when you wished God didn't exist?

No.

7» Was there ever a time when you regarded God as a threat rather than a friend?

Yes.
 
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Slyzr

Well-known member
Dant01 said:
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Rom 8:7-8 testifies that humanity is quite by nature hostile to God. So I propose
adding another question to my original list of six.

7» Was there ever a time when you regarded God as a threat rather than a friend?

As before, try to answer the question with a simple Yes or a No

NOTE: Neither the question in this post, nor the questions listed in post No.56
inquire how you feel about God today; in the now, i.e. they're deliberately worded
to inquire about your past; before you were enlightened.
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When enlightenment equates to no one will ever be ......

What of their enlightenment.

BTW ..... I noticed you did not answer my question to you .......

With a simple yes or no ......

Does man matter?
 
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Slyzr

Well-known member
e v e said:
the serpent realm beings only got what they have by theft when eden fell.

their enlightenment was by theft and rape of eden.

so it’s a false enlightment adam received


but not adam as a human being as you or i.


adam not as a mortal , but as an eden man betrayed God.
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No offense but you seem to be the one wanting to go back to talking snakes.

It is more simple then you can ever imagine.

And their will be no more pooping unless eve declarers such.

You issue is you think that is correct.

I pooped ...... deal with it.
 
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