Apologetics vs One's Integrity

Dant01

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Was there ever a time you felt significant and filled with pride ? Yes or no

The OP's focus us upon one's opinions of God rather one's self.

Your response is fairly common among apologists. In the course of discussion, it's only a
matter of time before they begin attacking God's critics with personal remarks.
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Chalcedon

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The OP's focus us upon one's opinions of God rather one's self.

Your response is fairly common among apologists. In the course of discussion, it's only a
matter of time before they begin attacking God's critics with personal remarks.
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Ones opinion of self and God go hand in hand together so who in earth are you trying to fool ?

Any more fallacious arguments you care to share with us today ?
 

Dant01

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Hey, I have a suggestion.

Someone should start a thread that questions the integrity of God's critics just as

this one questions the integrity of His defenders.
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Dant01

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the questions are insulting to God.

Regardless of their etiquette; if perchance you are called on the carpet and required
to respond to the seven questions listed below, be very sure your responses are
100% honest and 100% forthright because God will know if you try to cover up.

The good news is: you'll likely not be communicating directly with the ultimate
supreme being, rather, indirectly via His hand-picked delegate: Jesus Christ.

John 14:6 . . No one comes to the Father except through me.

1Tim 2:5 . .There is one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus.

1» Was there ever a time when you felt that God should've stepped in to prevent
the Serpent from tempting Eve?

2» Was there ever a time when you resented God's control over your life?

3» Was there ever a time when you were dissatisfied with Hades and/or the Lake Of
Fire? In other words: was there a time when you felt those punishments go too far,
i.e. they're over-kill; too extreme.

4» God knew in advance that He would regret creating humankind, and that He
would be drowning most of it in a global deluge; yet went ahead and created people
anyway. Has there ever been a time when you felt there was something sick and
twisted about God for doing that?

5» Was there ever a time when you felt that some of God's actions were
unreasonable, unfair, inhumane, selfish, cruel, and/or the work of a mad man?

6» Was there ever a time when you wished God didn't exist?

7» Was there ever a time when you regarded God as an enemy rather than a
friend?

You won't get in trouble should you answer all seven of those questions with a Yes,
but I think I can easily guarantee that you will definitely be in deep Dutch should
your answers be "I don't know".

Should you choose to go the "I don't know" route; then be prepared for an in-depth
grilling that you will find very uncomfortable and no way to escape. Time is
insignificant to Jesus. However long it takes, he'll go whatever distance it takes to
break you.
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Theo1689

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You won't get in trouble should you answer all seven of those questions with a Yes,
but I think I can easily guarantee that you will definitely be in deep Dutch should
your answers be "I don't know".

So let me get this straight....

1) You will "accept" (whoever you are, that anyone should recognize any "authority" in you) an answer of "yes" to those questions.

2) If someone answers "I don't know", then you promise to harass them (how "Christian"!)

3) What if someone answers "no" to those questions? You don't say....
 

Dant01

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This should a new thread eve. I'd like to see what the theologians have to say
about it.

The "soul" question is bounced around the room day after day, and year after year,
all across the internet without getting to the bottom of anything. People on both
sides of the aisle hurl scripture after scripture at each other hoping the other side
will eventually run out of bullets and concede defeat, which of course they never
do.
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Slyzr

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Regardless of their etiquette; if perchance you are called on the carpet and required
to respond to the seven questions listed below, be very sure your responses are
100% honest and 100% forthright because God will know if you try to cover up.

The good news is: you'll likely not be communicating directly with the ultimate
supreme being, rather, indirectly via His hand-picked delegate: Jesus Christ.

John 14:6 . . No one comes to the Father except through me.

1Tim 2:5 . .There is one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus.

1» Was there ever a time when you felt that God should've stepped in to prevent
the Serpent from tempting Eve?

2» Was there ever a time when you resented God's control over your life?

3» Was there ever a time when you were dissatisfied with Hades and/or the Lake Of
Fire? In other words: was there a time when you felt those punishments go too far,
i.e. they're over-kill; too extreme.

4» God knew in advance that He would regret creating humankind, and that He
would be drowning most of it in a global deluge; yet went ahead and created people
anyway. Has there ever been a time when you felt there was something sick and
twisted about God for doing that?

5» Was there ever a time when you felt that some of God's actions were
unreasonable, unfair, inhumane, selfish, cruel, and/or the work of a mad man?

6» Was there ever a time when you wished God didn't exist?

7» Was there ever a time when you regarded God as an enemy rather than a
friend?

You won't get in trouble should you answer all seven of those questions with a Yes,
but I think I can easily guarantee that you will definitely be in deep Dutch should
your answers be "I don't know".

Should you choose to go the "I don't know" route; then be prepared for an in-depth
grilling that you will find very uncomfortable and no way to escape. Time is
insignificant to Jesus. However long it takes, he'll go whatever distance it takes to
break you.
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So pooping is over with?
 

Slyzr

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The "soul" question is bounced around the room day after day, and year after year,
all across the internet without getting to the bottom of anything. People on both
sides of the aisle hurl scripture after scripture at each other hoping the other side
will eventually run out of bullets and concede defeat, which of course they never
do.
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IMO ..... it is a marking propagation.

Some one is winning this game and pretty sure it is not me.
 

Dant01

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What if someone answers "no" to those questions?

"No" would be acceptable to Christ just so long as it's 100% honest and 100%
forthright.

Heb 4:16 urges Christ's followers to come boldly unto the throne of grace where
they may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need.

The Greek word translated "boldly" is from parrhesia (par-rhay-see' ah) which means
all out-spokenness, i.e. frankness, bluntness, and/or candor.

If people come before the throne with deceit, dissembling, dishonesty, guile, and/or
reticence, I think they should probably forget about obtaining the mercy and grace
spoken of in that passage.

Honesty is definitely going to be the very best policy should those seven questions
come up during an interview with God; 'cause mankind's creator can see into the
innermost core of our being; He'll know whether we're telling the truth or keeping
secrets.

» Some folks regard Bible study as no more important than discussing a chapter of
Sense And Sensibility in a Jane Austen book club. No, this is for keeps; some of you
out there need to stop quarrelling with me and realize there's a tsunami headed
your way and you haven't been getting ready for it.
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4Him

Administrator
Staff member
You won't get in trouble should you answer all seven of those questions with a Yes,
but I think I can easily guarantee that you will definitely be in deep Dutch should
your answers be "I don't know".

Should you choose to go the "I don't know" route; then be prepared for an in-depth
grilling that you will find very uncomfortable and no way to escape. Time is
insignificant to Jesus. However long it takes, he'll go whatever distance it takes to
break you.
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So Jesus told you this? You are now His appointed spokesman?

Spare us....we can go to His word to understand Him and disregard your silly made up questions.

Who are you to think you can speak as to what Jesus will do or say....that you even said that shows your ignorance of Jesus and who He is. He won't be 'grilling' anyone for 'however long it takes to break them'.....that's not even remotely grounded in scripture.
 

Slyzr

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It's never over with until you accept Christ.



Christ won the game for you. All you have to do is give up and resign your life to him.

Then you are trying to make a monster Christ.

Not sure that is christ.

You seem to want a savior that say's NO ONE will ever matter again.
 

Dizerner

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Then you are trying to make a monster Christ.

Not sure that is christ.

You seem to want a savior that say's NO ONE will ever matter again.

So by saying you matter to Christ I'm saying you don't matter to Christ?

Perhaps your mind just needs clearing, friend.

Christ will be a monster to sinners, and he says so: and he will accept you just as worthless as you are.

How I pray that you don't selfishly throw your life away, and consider how much Christ values it!
 

Slyzr

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So by saying you matter to Christ I'm saying you don't matter to Christ?

Perhaps your mind just needs clearing, friend.

Christ will be a monster to sinners, and he says so: and he will accept you just as worthless as you are.

How I pray that you don't selfishly throw your life away, and consider how much Christ values it!

Can I play the too much righteousness card?
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The too much righteousness card tend towards .......

Never good enough never to be .....

Never to live only to die.

Like I was saying before ..... not sure that is Christ.
 

Dizerner

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Like I was saying before ..... not sure that is Christ.

Of course it's not Christ. Christ came to give you his very own life.

If you reject it, you are saying Christ is worthless, Christ's sacrifice is worthless, Christ's love is worthless, and Christ's will is worthless.

Pride is the death of every sinner, please don't embrace pride, I beg you.
 

Slyzr

Well-known member
Of course it's not Christ. Christ came to give you his very own life.

If you reject it, you are saying Christ is worthless, Christ's sacrifice is worthless, Christ's love is worthless, and Christ's will is worthless.

Pride is the death of every sinner, please don't embrace pride, I beg you.

seriously .......

You should listen to yourself.
 
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