AS a Christian can you ever vote DEMOCRATIC

[ferengi]

The "right to bear arms" did not come from God.

Your evidence is?

post #182...Yes it did - Read the Declaration of Independence

Prove I said that

 

[Newbirth]

Already done- Read "More Guns - Less Crime" by Lott.

is it true? that is the question.

The law abiding by definition are not criminals.

Until they commit a crime. Anyway, your understanding of the 2nd amendment allows for all people to keep and bear arms. To restrict any person from bearing arms would be an infringement on their rights.

Morality.

So what did the immoral person use to kill?

No they are a political issue.

Only if you make it so. Now you are blaming politicians for gun-related crimes.

 

[Newbirth]

Your evidence is?

God didn't write that anywhere...

Prove I said that

I just did...

 

[ferengi]

is it true? that is the question.

read it

Anyway, your understanding of the 2nd amendment allows for all people to keep and bear arms.

Not its the plain meaning because thats what it says.

To restrict any person from bearing arms would be an infringement on their rights.

Unless they are a criminal.

So what did the immoral person use to kill?

What difference does it make>

Now you are blaming politicians for gun-related crimes.

Prove it

 

[ferengi]

God didn't write that anywhere...

I just did...

PRove it - no you did not

 

[Thistle]

Correct, people do kill because of disregard for human life, however, guns make it easier to kill.

And jet airplanes…

 

[Mike McK]

Ferengi says it does, post #182 in response to post# 179

I never assumed there was no difference. Take up your issue with Ferengi he says in the declaration of independence God gives the rights to bear arms.

Oh, okay. So it's not that you were making that claim, it's just that you lack the reading comprehension to navigate Ferengi's post. OK. Thanks for the clarification.

 

[CrowCross]

Correct, people do kill because of disregard for human life, however, guns make it easier to kill.

Guns can and do stop people who have a disregard for human life. That's not a bad thing.

 

[ferengi]

Oh, okay. So it's not that you were making that claim, it's just that you lack the reading comprehension to navigate Ferengi's post. OK. Thanks for the clarification.

THX

 

[ferengi]

Guns can and do stop people who have a disregard for human life. That's not a bad thing.

Its actually PEOPLE using guns - just a little hair splitting for ya

 

[CrowCross]

Its actually PEOPLE using guns - just a little hair splitting for ya

True, people pull the trigger. Often for a good reason.

 

[ferengi]

True, people pull the trigger. Often for a good reason.

Yup

 

[CrowCross]

Yup

People have died because they didn't have a trigger to pull when attacked.

 

[ferengi]

People have died because they didn't have a trigger to pull when attacked.

Darn Skippy bubba

 

[Newbirth]

read it

reading it does not make it true or false.

Not its the plain meaning because thats what it says.

You didn't say everything that it said...

Unless they are a criminal.

It does not say that, unless you are saying that criminals are not people.

What difference does it make>

it makes a difference in the use of weapons.

Prove it

I already showed the post where you said it.

 

[ferengi]

reading it does not make it true or false.

Straw man - never said it did - the science makes it so

You didn't say everything that it said...

So what?

It does not say that, unless you are saying that criminals are not people.

Prove it. Straw man.

it makes a difference in the use of weapons.

Your evidence is?

I already showed the post where you said it.

SO you refuse to prove your claims

 

[Newbirth]

Guns can and do stop people who have a disregard for human life.

Guns cannot kill on their own...I have never heard about a gun being arrested for killing anyone.

That's not a bad thing.

People use guns to kill because they have guns. Guns in and of themselves are neither good nor bad. People are, that is why guns need to be registered and regulated.

 

[ferengi]

that is why guns need to be registered and regulated.

Now you contradict yourself.

 

[Newbirth]

Straw man - never said it did - the science makes it so

so why are you asking me to read it if it does not say it did? Science does not make anything so.

So what?

that is called lying by omission

Prove it. Straw man.

this is what it says...A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed. Which is not what you said.

Your evidence is?

SO you refuse to prove your claims

nope, you refuse to read your own post.

 

[Newbirth]

Now you contradict yourself.

Nope, you are confused...The 2nd amendment says a well regulated militia...You are against gun regulation