Jesus gave no instructions on politics. His only concern was seeking and saving the lost.
Jesus said He came to call sinners to repentance (including you). That's true.
However, the Bible, all of which is the words of Jesus (2 Tim 3:16) has much to say about politics.
We gave ourselves rights in the US Constitution.
Then you should have no problem quoting exactly where the Constitution says we give ourselves rights.
The only right God gives is for you to be a Christian, have peace with Him, and go to Heaven.
Precisely the opposite of what the Bible says. The Bible says that we're sinners and rebels against God, whom God saved because of His mercy, not because we have some "right".
That's not my logic and I said no such thing. Hitler was a monster who tried to commit genocide on the Jews. There is no justification for what he did.
Why? According to you, Hitler took their rights away.
Agreed until we decide to change it. Guns are a right that we gave ourselves. God didn't give it to us.
That's not what the Founders and Framers believed, and not the context in which they wrote the 2nd Amendment.
It's obvious you didn't read the article.
It's obvious you weren't able to make out the big words in my post. I literally quoted the article.
Thomas Jefferson didn't believe any of the supernatural stuff in the bible was true. In the article it says "This Bible was focused only on Jesus, but none of his mystical works."
That doesn't mean he didn't believe in them. I've already provided examples of miracles he DID include, as well as explained to you that the reason he omitted many of the miracles is that the purpose of the book was not to be a a Bible, but a compilation of Christ's philosophcal teaching.
Uncle Ernie said:
It also says "Made for his private use and kept secret for decades
Yeah, I know. I told you that in a previous post.
Uncle Ernie said:
, Jefferson’s 84-page Bible was the work of a man who spent much of his life grappling with, and doubting, religion."
Uncle Ernie said:
The bible was for his personal use and reflected his beliefs about Christ.
Actually, as shown by the quotes and citations I provided for you, he didn't spend "much of his life grappling with, and doubting religion".
Thomas Jefferson and Ben Franklin were opposites: Franklin was a deist when he was young, and became a Christian when he was older. Jefferson was a Christian when he was younger, who adopted abberant beliefs as he got older.
Many of the founders weren't Christians.
Irrelevant and unfounded. The issue isn't whether or not they were Christians, but whether or not they were influenced, and their writings reflected, Christian philosophy.
Religion to them was a private matter.
And yet, they wrote repeatedly of the necessity of religion, the importance of religion in the public square, etc.
If this nation was a Christian nation then it would be a theocracy with the bible as the law of the land.
Had you bothered to read the SCOTUS decision in the Trinity case, you would have seen that Brewer explains in great detail how America is a Christian nation in the sense that it is founded on Christian philosophy and influenced and shaped by Christianity.
It is not. Freedom of religion to Christians of "your brand" means freedom of "Christian" religion.
Another lie. We believe freedom of religion means freedom to practice any religion or none at all.
Well you called me a liar
Yes, and you just lied again since the last time I pointed out that you lied.
and now you call me ignorant.
Yes.
If you lie, you are, by definition, a liar. If you lack knowledge or understanding of something, you are, by definition, ignorant. There is nothing "mean" about pointing that out. Facts don't care about your feelings.
The Trinity case was about the use of public funds to pay for vouchers to private religious schools. It had nothing to do with deciding if the USA was or wasn't a Christian nation.
The issue isn't what the Trinity case was about, but the fact that Brewer makes a strong case in writing for the majority opinion that America is, indeed, a Christian nation. But you won't read it because you don't care about the truth.
Christians of "your brand" have forgotten this because Freedom of religion means Freedom of "Christian" religion to you all.
Actually, you're the ones who have been telling churches they can't meet and arresting pastors who open their churches, suing people for not wanting to violate their religious beliefs. We've always been consistent that the freedom of religion means all religions.
Your attempt is to make Christianity a "favored" religion and all other religions are relegated to the back of the closet.
Another lie.
An example is school sponsored prayer. You all want this as long as Christian prayers are being said.
Actually, most of us don't want this. We just children to be allowed to pray, not to have prayer forced on them.
Let little Johnny come home and say "momma, today our teacher led us in Hindu prayers." You guys would be at the school ready to burn the place down.
I think you're confusing us with Antifa and BLM, which is your side, not ours. You guys are in the burning things business (eg. buildings, crosses, etc), not us.
No, you are inconsistent with the founding principles.
Between the two of us, I'm the one who's actually quoted and cited the Founders. All you've done is deny.
There you go calling me ignorant again. You're one mean guy. Sheesh.
And you're still ignorant.
