AS a Christian can you ever vote DEMOCRATIC

Mike McK

Well-known member
You seem to have missed the points Jesus makes in the passages I cited:
1) The fact that Jesus explicitly tells His followers to love their neighbor.
2) The fact that Jesus repeatedly exhorts His followers to help the poor.
3) The fact that Jesus explicitly tells His followers to give money to the government for taxes.
4) The fact that Jesus repeatedly speaks against accumulating material wealth.

Put it all together.
Those who oppose having tax dollars help the poor are not truly followers of the teachings of Jesus. They love money more than they love their neighbor.
Literally, not one place in the text does Jesus say anything about the government taking care of the poor.

The fact that you believe charity should be outsourced to the government shows that you're the one who doesn't care about the poor.

Trump was right about one thing: Many of his supporters don't care that he is the antithesis of what Jesus calls His followers to be.
Trump isn't a "follower of Jesus" so I don't know why any Christian would hold him to that standard.
 

Carol

Well-known member
You seem to have missed the points Jesus makes in the passages I cited:
1) The fact that Jesus explicitly tells His followers to love their neighbor.
2) The fact that Jesus repeatedly exhorts His followers to help the poor.
3) The fact that Jesus explicitly tells His followers to give money to the government for taxes.
4) The fact that Jesus repeatedly speaks against accumulating material wealth.

Put it all together.
Those who oppose having tax dollars help the poor are not truly followers of the teachings of Jesus. They love money more than they love their neighbor.

Matthew 6
19Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy, and where thieves break in and steal.
24No one can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and wealth.

Love of money....yeah, that's why I don't agree with imposing Jesus' teachings on my neighbors. Sure it is....
 

UncleAbee

Active member
And I don't appreciate your hateful, slanderous claims.

No, you just accused me of all sorts of terrible things, including racism.

So is lying and slander.

You called us racists!!! We're already apart. Sorry, Uncle Ernie, but it's your party that's the party of racism, not ours.

You first.
I don't know who you are and never called your name so I am not sure how I have accused you of racism. I assume you are a Republican. Accusing the Republican party of racist acts is not accusing each individual member of being a racist. I have family members who are Republicans. I don't think they are racists. Also, you don't know what party I belong to. My point is that there are sinful acts on both sides of the political coin. We put a premium on gayness and abortion and discount all the other ones. God is going to hold us all accountable for any unrepentant sin.
 

Algernon

Active member
Love of money....yeah, that's why I don't agree with imposing Jesus' teachings on my neighbors. Sure it is...

Yeah right. Does that extend to not imposing conservative Christian views on abortion, capital punishment, same-sex marriage, teaching creationism in schools, etc. as well? If so, then you're one of a very small minority.
 

Carol

Well-known member
Yeah right. Does that extend to not imposing conservative Christian views on abortion, capital punishment, same-sex marriage, teaching creationism in schools, etc. as well? If so, then you're one of a very small minority.

Abortion- a fetus is an immature human offspring, as is a baby, and a child. That isn't a "view", it's a fact.

Do you think supporting a "right" to kill your offspring makes one "truly a follower of the teachings of Jesus "?

Marriage has been marriage, around the world, since long before anyone was called "Christian ".

Do you think supporting the government redefining it and imposing it makes one "truly a follower of the teachings of Jesus"?


This is getting tiring....
 

Carol

Well-known member
Literally, not one place in the text does Jesus say anything about the government taking care of the poor.

The fact that you believe charity should be outsourced to the government shows that you're the one who doesn't care about the poor.

Charity isn't "Caesar's".
 

CrowCross

Super Member
It is my belief the DNC is being supported and driven by element of the NWO....Soros?

The NWO wants to collapse the governments of the world and then establish power. Much to say on that.

Why? Perhaps in preperation for Rev 6:1 Now I watched when the Lamb opened one of the seven seals, and I heard one of the four living creatures say with a voice like thunder, “Come!” 2 And I looked, and behold, a white horse! And its rider had a bow, and a crown was given to him, and he came out conquering, and to conquer.
 

CrowCross

Super Member
Put it all together.
Those who oppose having tax dollars help the poor are not truly followers of the teachings of Jesus. They love money more than they love their neighbor.
I disagree. As I don't mind the gov helping the poor...I'd rather give to who I want to give and not who the gov deems as needy. The money is often wasted or absconded by dirty politicians.

That doesn't mean I love money more than my neighbor.
 

CrowCross

Super Member
Love of money....yeah, that's why I don't agree with imposing Jesus' teachings on my neighbors. Sure it is....
If you're not "imposing" Jesus' teachings on your neighbor....then just who's teaching are you imposing? Marx? Sharia law......Something will fill the gap.
 

mica

Well-known member
You seem to have missed the points Jesus makes in the passages I cited:
1) The fact that Jesus explicitly tells His followers to love their neighbor.
2) The fact that Jesus repeatedly exhorts His followers to help the poor.
3) The fact that Jesus explicitly tells His followers to give money to the government for taxes.
4) The fact that Jesus repeatedly speaks against accumulating material wealth.

Put it all together.
Those who oppose having tax dollars help the poor are not truly followers of the teachings of Jesus. They love money more than they love their neighbor.

Matthew 6
19Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy, and where thieves break in and steal.
24No one can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and wealth.
 

Thistle

Well-known member
I love the way the marxist left takes a joke out of context.
I love it too. The humorless left is our best recruiting tool. There are life long Democrats who will vote a straight Republican ticket for that very reason this cycle.
 

mica

Well-known member
You seem to have missed the points Jesus makes in the passages I cited:
1) The fact that Jesus explicitly tells His followers to love their neighbor.
yes, His followers, the church. not the government. we don't need the government to do that. the dems love themselves.

2) The fact that Jesus repeatedly exhorts His followers to help the poor.
yes, His followers, the church. not the government. we don't need the government to do that. the dems help themselves to the money we pay in taxes - and money they get from their political exploitation.

3) The fact that Jesus explicitly tells His followers to give money to the government for taxes.
yes, some of it, not all of it. in the US we have the freedom to vote in our politicians. some want to raise taxes to use the money for ridiculous things - including their own bank accounts. He tells His church to take care of the elderly, sick and poor. That's up to us not the government.

4) The fact that Jesus repeatedly speaks against accumulating material wealth.

Put it all together.
Those who oppose having tax dollars help the poor are not truly followers of the teachings of Jesus. They love money more than they love their neighbor.

Matthew 6
19Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy, and where thieves break in and steal.
24No one can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and wealth.
and the politicians get mega rich thru their politics. Is there somewhere in scripture where Jesus says to make our politicians mega wealthy?

do you know how much His church gives to the poor, sick etc thru their non tax dollars? the left likes to keep a lot of people under its control by giving them 'freebies' (paid for by the tax dollars of the middle class people). the left's way of buying their votes.
the Clintons, Bidens and Obama were more on the poor side prior to getting into politics. now they're all mega millionaires. They use the people for their own financial gain.

post the verse where He tells His followers to give their money to the government to help the poor instead of doing it themselves with their own money.
 

mica

Well-known member
Trump was right about one thing: Many of his supporters don't care that he is the antithesis of what Jesus calls His followers to be.
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right. we're not voting for a new minister of the gospel, we're voting for the leader of our country. He happens to believe in God, support Israel and is anti abortion. He also supports freedom of religious beliefs, not one forced on us by the government. The left removed God from their platform. they also removed support for Israel. And they push for abortion for all.

In 2016 I was refusing to vote at all until I read an article about it by James Garlow. it can be found online. read it -
https://www.charismanews.com/politi...es-how-the-very-future-of-america-is-at-stake
 
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