AS a Christian can you ever vote DEMOCRATIC

UncleAbee

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IOW you have no evidence for your claims

I wont - your racism has been exposed.

Not the question- why are you a racist?

Prove it.

Prove it

I wrote - The Trump crowd is pushing Trump's attempt to overturn a fair election that Biden won by a large margin.

Ferengi replied above - Prove it

Ok. Three bullet points to prove my statement.

1 - Biden won the election. The votes have been tabulated and counted. Biden has 306 electoral votes. Trump has 232. Biden won.
2 - The election was fair. Every state election official has gone on the record and stated the election was secure and fair (see here and here and here.) Trump fired Chris Kreb (DHS security director appointed by Trump) after he debunked Trump's fraud claims (see here). The majority of Trump's fraud court cases have been dismissed (click here). There is no fraud.
3 - Trump is cheating. He started off by trying to coerce the Ukranian leader into investigating Joe Biden (click here). Trump primed his base since the 2016 election by saying over and that he can only lose through cheating. Trump announced he had won even before the vote counts were in. He is pressuring state officials to overturn the election (click here) by getting them to ignore the popular vote and appoint Trump friendly electors. He is attempting to use the courts to overturn the election via frivolous lawsuits (see point 2).

This is an all out assault on democracy and needs to be stopped. There is no evidence of fraud. Trump and his team are making claims with no evidence. The courts are throwing out case after case. The sad thing is that the GOP leadership (mostly, there are a few dissenters) is either supporting him or being silent. This lends a false validity to what Trump is doing. Every major news station has confirmed no cheating and even FOX news is disassociating itself from the voter fraud claims. FOX called the election for Biden.
 

ferengi

Well-known member
I wrote - The Trump crowd is pushing Trump's attempt to overturn a fair election that Biden won by a large margin.
Prove it.
1 - Biden won the election.
Prove it
2 - The election was fair.
Prove it
3 - Trump is cheating.
Prove it.
He started off by trying to coerce the Ukranian leader into investigating Joe Biden (click here).
Prove it. What about bidens extortion of Ukraine?
 

mica

Well-known member
I wrote - The Trump crowd is pushing Trump's attempt to overturn a fair election that Biden won by a large margin.

Ferengi replied above - Prove it

Ok. Three bullet points to prove my statement.

1 - Biden won the election. The votes have been tabulated and counted. Biden has 306 electoral votes. Trump has 232. Biden won.
2 - The election was fair. Every state election official has gone on the record and stated the election was secure and fair (see here and here and here.) Trump fired Chris Kreb (DHS security director appointed by Trump) after he debunked Trump's fraud claims (see here). The majority of Trump's fraud court cases have been dismissed (click here). There is no fraud.
3 - Trump is cheating. He started off by trying to coerce the Ukranian leader into investigating Joe Biden (click here). Trump primed his base since the 2016 election by saying over and that he can only lose through cheating. Trump announced he had won even before the vote counts were in. He is pressuring state officials to overturn the election (click here) by getting them to ignore the popular vote and appoint Trump friendly electors. He is attempting to use the courts to overturn the election via frivolous lawsuits (see point 2).
many who claim to be a news agency said that Biden won - before all vote counts were in.

Fox called AZ for Biden before all votes were in or counted. Bill Hemmer blew off the 'Maricopa county' ballots still out with something like 'It's highly democratic anyway'. It's also highly Hispanic and many Hispanics changed to Trump this election. Also, it wasn't just Maricopa county that wasn't in and counted, it was Pima, Pinal, Apache and 2 or 3 others. plus their provisional and military ballots were still uncounted. there were at least 70-80,000 still uncounted - outside of Maricopa and Pima counties.

this past week a young man who moved from AZ to TN about 1.5 yrs ago was on a news show saying that he found out that 'he' had also 'voted' in AZ in this election. He doesn't know how that happened but guesses that a ballot was sent to his old address in AZ and someone completed it and turned it in.


This is an all out assault on democracy and needs to be stopped. There is no evidence of fraud. Trump and his team are making claims with no evidence. The courts are throwing out case after case. The sad thing is that the GOP leadership (mostly, there are a few dissenters) is either supporting him or being silent.
no, this is how it is set up to play out... it's all legal.

yes, there's lots of it. dead people who voted. thousands of 'ballots' being secretly brought in during the middle of the night... in bags, boxes, a trash can.

This lends a false validity to what Trump is doing. Every major news station has confirmed no cheating and even FOX news is disassociating itself from the voter fraud claims. FOX called the election for Biden.
that's what so many call themselves - but they're really mouthpieces for the left.

and Fox also lost tons of viewers. Fox has also been taken over by the left (passed down to Rupert's kids). I suspect in the relatively near future many of the shows from the right (Hannity, Levin, Ingram) will go gone. Many former (now) Fox viewers are now watching Newsmax - as I am.
 

UncleAbee

Active member
many who claim to be a news agency said that Biden won - before all vote counts were in.
Fox called AZ for Biden before all votes were in or counted. Bill Hemmer blew off the 'Maricopa county' ballots still out with something like 'It's highly democratic anyway'. It's also highly Hispanic and many Hispanics changed to Trump this election. Also, it wasn't just Maricopa county that wasn't in and counted, it was Pima, Pinal, Apache and 2 or 3 others. plus their provisional and military ballots were still uncounted. there were at least 70-80,000 still uncounted - outside of Maricopa and Pima counties.

this past week a young man who moved from AZ to TN about 1.5 yrs ago was on a news show saying that he found out that 'he' had also 'voted' in AZ in this election. He doesn't know how that happened but guesses that a ballot was sent to his old address in AZ and someone completed it and turned it in.



no, this is how it is set up to play out... it's all legal.

yes, there's lots of it. dead people who voted. thousands of 'ballots' being secretly brought in during the middle of the night... in bags, boxes, a trash can.


that's what so many call themselves - but they're really mouthpieces for the left.

and Fox also lost tons of viewers. Fox has also been taken over by the left (passed down to Rupert's kids). I suspect in the relatively near future many of the shows from the right (Hannity, Levin, Ingram) will go gone. Many former (now) Fox viewers are now watching Newsmax - as I am.
Well... these very same agencies declared Trump the winner in 2016 "before all the votes were counted." Why not the same outrage then as now? There were more irregularities uncovered in the 2016 election vs the current one. Trump lost. The election was fair and has been deemed so by all the state election officials (many Republican). No votes showed up mysteriously at midnight. No dead people voted. It's funny how you guys speak against FOX News now that they have finally stood against Trump on something. My suggestion for you guys is to get off the internet, turn off opinion cable news networks (FOX, CNN, MSNBC), and read "real" news sources (local news, local newspaper, CSPAN, traditional broadcast networks such as NBC, ABC, CBS).
 
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Chuckz

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Neither party is ever going to do anything about abortion. So is there some other reason not to vote Democrat?
Neither party is Christian. Neither candidate is Christian.

Once the republican party leaders were not wearing masks because of covid, they showed me they don't really care about our lives and over 300,000 people died from covid. How is that pro life?

The "stand back and stand down" comment became a slogan for the Proud Boys.

Over 500 children separated from their parents no longer can be reunited with their parents.

A lot of the things the white house press secretary says is not true.

God is not going to allow sin in his house and there are already astronomical tallies of how many times the president lied.

Christians use to vote based on merit. Neither party stopped abortion.

When the new administration takes over, a lot is going to be exposed about the 2016 to 2020 administration.
 

Mike McK

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Neither party is Christian. Neither candidate is Christian.

Once the republican party leaders were not wearing masks because of covid, they showed me they don't really care about our lives and over 300,000 people died from covid. How is that pro life?
It's neither pro-life nor not pro-life. It's just pro-science.
The "stand back and stand down" comment became a slogan for the Proud Boys.
Yeah...and?
Over 500 children separated from their parents no longer can be reunited with their parents.
They weren't their parents. They were people who "bought" children to get them through legal checkpoints.

Trump has no choice but to follow the law.

A lot of the things the white house press secretary says is not true.

Yeah, and we can say the same for Obama's press secretary, Clinton's press secretary, and Biden's press secretary.
God is not going to allow sin in his house and there are already astronomical tallies of how many times the president lied.
Yep. Politicians lie, alright. And Democrats have raised lying to an art form.
Christians use to vote based on merit.
Still do.
When the new administration takes over, a lot is going to be exposed about the 2016 to 2020 administration.
Yes. And everything about Hillary Clinton and the Biden Crime Syndicate will be swept under the rug, because you're not interested in truth, only in punishing the other side.

You're all hypocrites.
 

CrowCross

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Once the republican party leaders were not wearing masks because of covid, they showed me they don't really care about our lives and over 300,000 people died from covid. How is that pro life?
That is complete BS...I know of people who wore mask and caught the Chinese Covid 19.

Then you have the audacity to post they don't care about the 300,000? Seriously dude? You kinda make me sick with your screwed up political point.
 
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Chuckz

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That is complete BS...I know of people who wore mask and caught the Chinese Covid 19.

Then you have the audacity to post they don't care about the 300,000? Seriously dude? You kinda make me sick with your screwed up political point.
I wear a mask, i use antibacterial wipes or gloves, wash my hands and have not gotten covid.
 

CrowCross

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I wear a mask, i use antibacterial wipes or gloves, wash my hands and have not gotten covid.
You just haven't really gotten sneezed on or coughed on yet...good for you....as your mask will do nothing to stop the Chinese Covid 19 soaked cough or sneeze....can you feel the virus slip past your mask and cheek and go right to your nose?

It won't go through your mask...it will go around your mask through the massive leaks.
 
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Chuckz

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It's neither pro-life nor not pro-life. It's just pro-science.

Yeah...and?

They weren't their parents. They were people who "bought" children to get them through legal checkpoints.

Trump has no choice but to follow the law.



Yeah, and we can say the same for Obama's press secretary, Clinton's press secretary, and Biden's press secretary.

Yep. Politicians lie, alright. And Democrats have raised lying to an art form.

Still do.

Yes. And everything about Hillary Clinton and the Biden Crime Syndicate will be swept under the rug, because you're not interested in truth, only in punishing the other side.

You're all hypocrites.
I pay more than $750 in taxes. Trump raised taxes on a lot of people.

Trump's policies were not from the Republican party so you can't say he represents the party.

The Trump administration deported the parents according to the New York times and other news sources.

I voted Republican since Ronald Reagan and people I know make fun of me.

I stopped listening to what the politicians say about themselves.

20 Republican senators are following Qanon so its bad when parties have to spread fake news.
 

CrowCross

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I pay more than $750 in taxes. Trump raised taxes on a lot of people.

Trump's policies were not from the Republican party so you can't say he represents the party.

The Trump administration deported the parents according to the New York times and other news sources.

I voted Republican since Ronald Reagan and people I know make fun of me.

I stopped listening to what the politicians say about themselves.

20 Republican senators are following Qanon so its bad when parties have to spread fake news.
Then support the Marxist and socialist.....deep down you seem to be onboard....I bet you still think the Steele FISA dossier was true.
 
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Chuckz

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You just haven't really gotten sneezed on or coughed on yet...good for you....as your mask will do nothing to stop the Chinese Covid 19 soaked cough or sneeze....can you feel the virus slip past your mask and cheek and go right to your nose?

It won't go through your mask...it will go around your mask through the massive leaks.
The Chinese have been wearing KN95 masks in the hospitals and have had a better time eradicating the virus than the maskless people in my country. They tested their people for the virus.

I bought KN95 masks from a man from China who lives here and I have not gotten sick yet.
 
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Chuckz

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Then support the Marxist and socialist.....deep down you seem to be onboard....I bet you still think the Steele FISA dossier was true.
Bush destroyed the Republican party and Trump is making enemies with people so you are going to have failed elections in the coming years.

There are already enough brown people that many Republicans won't be elected again and according to demographics, your choice at politicians may not happen anymore because in ten years, there will be too many brown people and the politicians will have to listen to them.

They've been discriminated enough by white people and they won't believe anything the white establishment says.
 
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Chuckz

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As of Aug. 27, the tally in our database that tracks every errant claim by the president stood at 22,247 claims in 1,316 days.



Being a Christian is more important than politics. I am a Christian first.

Trump is averaging more than 50 false or misleading claims a day - The Washington Post
https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...-more-than-50-false-or-misleading-claims-day/
 

Newbirth

Well-known member
Neither party is Christian. Neither candidate is Christian.

Once the republican party leaders were not wearing masks because of covid, they showed me they don't really care about our lives and over 300,000 people died from covid. How is that pro life?

The "stand back and stand down" comment became a slogan for the Proud Boys.

Over 500 children separated from their parents no longer can be reunited with their parents.

A lot of the things the white house press secretary says is not true.

God is not going to allow sin in his house and there are already astronomical tallies of how many times the president lied.

Christians use to vote based on merit. Neither party stopped abortion.

When the new administration takes over, a lot is going to be exposed about the 2016 to 2020 administration.
he is on folly. God killed a man for spilling his seed
9 And Onan knew that the seed should not be his; and it came to pass, when he went in unto his brother's wife, that he spilled it on the ground, lest that he should give seed to his brother.

10 And the thing which he did displeased the Lord: wherefore he slew him also.

If abortionists are serious they would ban masturbation, condoms, pills, and all forms of contraceptives...
 
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Chuckz

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he is on folly. God killed a man for spilling his seed
9 And Onan knew that the seed should not be his; and it came to pass, when he went in unto his brother's wife, that he spilled it on the ground, lest that he should give seed to his brother.

10 And the thing which he did displeased the Lord: wherefore he slew him also.

If abortionists are serious they would ban masturbation, condoms, pills, and all forms of contraceptives...
I fail to see how some contraception is killing life.
There is some contraception that kills life but not all.

Onan was using his brother's wife for pleasure.

Not bringing up a Godly line for the messiah to come is what displeased God.
 
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Chuckz

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I can see why.
Because everyone thinks they are better than someone else and the bible says to esteem others better than ourselves (Philippians 2:3)

I live in a Democratic city and everyone is opposed including Ivy League students.

1 Timothy 2:12 is against women pastors and yet evangelicals are taking her word against the bible that Trump is a believer.

We all had a chance to stop and watch how people behave during the pandemic and we actually left our church after I emailed the pastor. I even wrote things down so I can remember. We thought about a lot of things.

The church I left is dropping Sunday school and it is a thing because I googled it. I also had to debate it on another board and solved that problem.

Politics is a place that attracts people who want to be influential and politics should be about service. In order to get people to vote for them, they have to promise things they can't do and do a lot of lying.

Some people are Republicans because they want to earn money so they turn a blind eye to everything else. To some its about the 2nd Amendment. Its about selfishness instead about what is right.

When Trump became president, the news became about 2/3rds about him and everyone was complaining and mocking him on Saturday Night Live.

When I look at the corporate news stations, they are almost all for what people want. Almost all national news stations with the exception of Fox News are pretty much giving news the Democrats want. The method to winning should not be that the news media is fake news because that is just saying to his base to turn a blind eye towards reality.
 
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