LOL- links are not evidence - prove he did not cut taxes.Rather than spouting off lies, I encourage you to read actual facts:
Kennedy Was No Conservative
If our 35th president—fiscally profligate, contemptuous of civil liberties, and criminally reckless abroad—is a paragon of modern conservatism, conservatism is in even worse shape than I thought.www.cato.org
AS a Christian can you ever vote DEMOCRATIC
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Your evidence is? You seem to be projecting again
And the 5 peace deals he brokered with Muslim countries and Israel - what about that? What about achieving the lowest minority unemployment in history? Is that bad?
HillsboroMom
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I was wrong. He didn't just threaten to veto ... he DID veto.
Congress overrode his veto.
HillsboroMom
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If it were true, it would be good. It is not, however, true.
HillsboroMom
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He did not broker 5 peace deals. He got 4 Arab countries to recognize Israel. There was no promise to end hostilities from either side, which would be a necessary component of a "peace deal."
And considering his bone-headed move to recognize Jerusalem as the Israeli capital, he just made any negotiations harder.
UncleAbee
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I would hail it as progress but not a peace deal. The underlying issues between Israel, the Palestinians, and Iran was not resolved through this deal. I would agree though that Trump did make some good progress though.
You have to look at the trends. Minority (notably black) unemployment began it's declining trend rate in 2010 under Obama. The trend has carried through Trump's term. It's really just the continuation of Obama's trend under Trump. It didn't start under Trump. I'd give Trump credit for not messing up the trend. Obama get's the credit for starting the trend. The trend downwards is almost the same under Trump as it was under Obama. The trend downwards did not escalate under Trump. It actually decreased some. Go look at the black unemployment charts from 2010 to present and you'll see what I am saying.
HillsboroMom
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Also, since 2020, unemployment among minorities is growing at 2-3x that for whites. So, while you're right that from 2016-2019 it continued a downward trend, along with unemployment in general (and, as you say, the downward trend slowed, meaning it didn't decrease as quickly as it was decreasing under Obama, which may not be Trump's "fault," but should be noted), there is still a SIGNIFICANT difference among the races in unemployment and poverty. This NEEDS to be addressed.
IMHO, Obama didn't do enough to address it. No president has done enough to address it.
Avoiding the questions
Prove it - and no you did not - links are not evidnece
A distinction without a difference.
??? Your evidence is?
HillsboroMom
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No, I did not avoid the question.
You asked for evidence, I provided a link.
Are you aware that bearing false witness is one of the 10 commandments?
HillsboroMom
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If you don't accept links as evidence, what will you accept?
HillsboroMom
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If you think "getting a country to recognize another country" is the same as "a peace deal," then you are very, very confused.
Yes you did.
I know - links are not evidence.
Loaded question - prove I presented any.
LOL_ prove it
Shifting the burden.
When they do that they stop making threats - when they acknowledge the right of existence they stoop trying to destroy them.
Projeciton.
PRove they support your statements.
You did not ask.
Look up the word evidence in the dictionary.
Childish ad homs are not evidence.
See above
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Prove it.
When they recognize they stop trying to destroy
Prove it.
PRove it supports your claim.
Straw man - you never asked.
Present any definition of evidence that says links are evidence
UncleAbee
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Agreed. Minority unemployment is down but still way too high.