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kamaeq

Member
Oils were not as effective on me as the real stuff.

I know it's not legal yet, but I don't care. When I was on opioids, I wasn't always in control of my life. When smoking weed, I have that control.

I strictly buy 3 strains. 1 to help me sleep, 1 to help me eat, and lastly for pain. With opiods I was taking as many as 30 a day. Now I might smoke 3 or 4 times a week.
Recently my wife has been using the "gummy bear" version for sleeping. She doesn't touch any of it, even though she is legal, if she thinks she might have to drive.
 

Truth7t7

Well-known member
Simply Christian. If you are looking for more, then I'm on the more fundamentalist side. You can reference here for a confession of faith I agree with.

Blue Lodge, Scottish Rite Southern Jurisdiction, former Shriner, former Eastern Star.

3d Degree, 32d Degree (although the KCCH and 33d are trivial if I wanted them), regular member, regular member.

Note that I'm not a member of the York Rite, which doesn't number their degrees or of a number of other side orders.
Scottish Rite Southern Jurisdiction, who had the Supreme Commander as Albert Pike who wrote Morals And Dogma, and he is enshrined in the DC headquarters

Don't forget the satanic Inverted Pentagram, symbol of the "Eastern Star" below


illuminati-symbols-order-eastern-star-pentagram


(Albert Pike, "Morals and Dogma," page 104)

"Masonry, like all the Religions, all the Mysteries, Hermeticism and Alchemy, conceals its secrets from all except the Adepts and Sages, or the Elect, and uses false explanations and misinterpretations of its symbols to mislead those who deserve only to be misled; to conceal the Truth, which it calls Light, from them, and to draw them away from it."

(Albert Pike, "Morals and Dogma," page 819)

Part of the symbols are displayed there to the initiate, but he is intentionally misled by false interpretations. It is not intended that he shall understand them; but it is intended that he shall imagine he understands them."

(Albert Pike, "Morals and Dogma" page 321)

Lucifer, the Light-bearer! Strange and mysterious name to give to the Spirit of Darkness! Lucifer, the Son of the Morning! Is it he who bears the Light, and with its splendors intolerable, blinds feeble, sensual, or selfish souls? Doubt it not!"
 
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kamaeq

Member
Freemasonry is a religion that mentions the name of God throughout its rituals and teachings, oaths are sworn on the bible "Religion"
Nope, not a religion unless you base the claim only on the fact that Freemasonry acknowledges there is a Creator. On that basis, virtually all of the world's actual religions would be considered equal without any distinction. This is a philosophical position based on reason and general revelation, not special revelation. It is supported by the Bible:

To the chief Musician, A Psalm of David. The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork. Day unto day uttereth speech, and night unto night sheweth knowledge. There is no speech nor language, where their voice is not heard. Their line is gone out through all the earth, and their words to the end of the world. In them hath he set a tabernacle for the sun, Which is as a bridegroom coming out of his chamber, and rejoiceth as a strong man to run a race. His going forth is from the end of the heaven, and his circuit unto the ends of it: and there is nothing hid from the heat thereof. (Psa 19:1-6)

Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them. For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: (Rom 1:19-20)

Obligations are taken on the holy book that the individual reveres. For most, that would be a Bible, but other religions would use other books.

The freemasons have a children's org named after Jobs daughters, what happened to Jobs Daughters?

They were all killed by satan (Evil)

Really?
And the LORD turned the captivity of Job, when he prayed for his friends: also the LORD gave Job twice as much as he had before. Then came there unto him all his brethren, and all his sisters, and all they that had been of his acquaintance before, and did eat bread with him in his house: and they bemoaned him, and comforted him over all the evil that the LORD had brought upon him: every man also gave him a piece of money, and every one an earring of gold. So the LORD blessed the latter end of Job more than his beginning: for he had fourteen thousand sheep, and six thousand camels, and a thousand yoke of oxen, and a thousand she asses. He had also seven sons and three daughters. And he called the name of the first, Jemima; and the name of the second, Kezia; and the name of the third, Kerenhappuch. And in all the land were no women found so fair as the daughters of Job: and their father gave them inheritance among their brethren. After this lived Job an hundred and forty years, and saw his sons, and his sons' sons, even four generations. So Job died, being old and full of days. (Job 42:10-17)

BOLD emphasis added. So, where in the Bible do you find that these daughters of Job were "all killed by satan (Evil)" as you claim?

FYI, there are several youth organizations related to Freemasonry, including Demolay and Rainbow. It appears you attempted to make a zinger and revealed yourself for what you are, one who bears false witness maliciously to support false doctrine.


Freemasonry is the Occult, and this information is only revealed to the higher initiates as Albert Pike teaches (Lucifer Is The Lightbearer)
No, that is the "teaching" of Leo Taxil who hoaxed the Roman Catholic Church with his fake antimasonic writings.

Yes, there is a quote that can be clipped in Morals & Dogma, but to use that, you have to deal with the Preface to Morals & Dogma I've already cited in this thread. It is not a teaching of the old degree rituals or the newer degree rituals.

Oh, why the "have to" on the Preface? Because if you cannot deal with it, then your source is only the hoax of the pornographer, grifter and hoaxer who was scamming the Catholics for cash.
As the 1st degree initiate is told, he is going from darkness to light
Symbolically going from philosophical (intellectual) darkness to philosophical (intellectual) light. Has absolutely nothing to do with any religion's use of darkness to light.

Well, I guess if antimasons who claim to be Christian can't take things out of historical or literary context, they wouldn't have any context at all.
I find it amusing how much it exactly resembles the teachings of the antiBible and antiChristian lightweights you run across with their "proofs" about the Bible and Christianity. The listener is expected to look at their claims of truth and trust them implicitly without doing any actual research.
 

kamaeq

Member
Scottish Rite Southern Jurisdiction, who had the Supreme Commander as Albert Pike who wrote Morals And Dogma, and he is enshrined in the DC headquarters
He is buried there. I guess you could call it "enshrined" if you wanted to and some people may think that has some religious significance. Good for them, it is irrelevant to Scottish Rite masons. It also has nothing to do with the 95% of Freemasons who are not members of the Scottish Rite, SJ and nothing to do with the membership I'm personally familiar with who are members of the Scottish Rite, SJ.
Don't forget the satanic Inverted Pentagram, symbol of the "Eastern Star" below

illuminati-symbols-order-eastern-star-pentagram

The symbol of the "inverted" pentagram predates the founding of the Eastern Star, which actually predates the first published use of the "inverted" pentagram with the goat's head in it now linked to various group that claim links to satanism that constitutes the entire basis for your claim.

In fact, claiming it is "inverted" uses the pagan belief that one point should be up, pointing towards the divine. However, it is also a Christian symbol for the five wounds of Christ and as the star that shines in the East that leads to His birthplace, it is pointing down to Bethlehem. But, you go ahead and take paganism over Christian history. Perhaps you desire to discuss the Cross in a negative light? It is trivial if one considers its origins (one of which being a bit sexual) and demand (falsely) that only one's own interpretations are valid, even when one uses a later group's meaning over the meaning the earlier group used.

NOTE: Symbols mean what people who use them think they mean, not what outsiders claim they mean.
(Albert Pike, "Morals and Dogma," page 104)

"Masonry, like all the Religions, all the Mysteries, Hermeticism and Alchemy, conceals its secrets from all except the Adepts and Sages, or the Elect, and uses false explanations and misinterpretations of its symbols to mislead those who deserve only to be misled; to conceal the Truth, which it calls Light, from them, and to draw them away from it."

(Albert Pike, "Morals and Dogma," page 819)

Part of the symbols are displayed there to the initiate, but he is intentionally misled by false interpretations. It is not intended that he shall understand them; but it is intended that he shall imagine he understands them."

(Albert Pike, "Morals and Dogma" page 321)

Lucifer, the Light-bearer! Strange and mysterious name to give to the Spirit of Darkness! Lucifer, the Son of the Morning! Is it he who bears the Light, and with its splendors intolerable, blinds feeble, sensual, or selfish souls? Doubt it not!"

Here you go, let's see what you can do with the Preface to Morals and Dogma. Link is provided in the quote. Your choice, join those who run away from the simple truth or accept your failure.
Also if one is going to cite Morals and Dogma, then one needs to deal with Pike's Preface to the book, something antimasons who claim to be Christian have failed for over a decade here (might be getting close to two decades) and many more decades in general.

The teachings of these Readings are not sacramental, so far as they go beyond the realm of Morality into those of other domains of Thought and Truth. The Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite uses the word "Dogma" in its true sense, of doctrine, or teaching; and is not dogmatic in the odious sense of that term. Every one is entirely free to reject and dissent from whatsoever herein may seem to him to be untrue or unsound. It is only required of him that he shall weigh what is taught, and give it fair hearing and unprejudiced judgment. Of course, the ancient theosophic and philosophic speculations are not embodied as part of the doctrines of the Rite;...

Bold emphasis added.
Second test for the one who quotes from Morals and Dogma: Can you show anywhere that Morals and Dogma hold the same kind of authority over all Freemasonry as the Bible does over Christians?
This is another one the antimasons who claim to be Christian have failed to answer for over a decade.

Instead, they simple ignore the fact that their false teachings about Christianity have been revealed before the entire world and push on with their false doctrines.
 

Truth7t7

Well-known member
Nope, not a religion unless you base the claim only on the fact that Freemasonry acknowledges there is a Creator. On that basis, virtually all of the world's actual religions would be considered equal without any distinction. This is a philosophical position based on reason and general revelation, not special revelation. It is supported by the Bible:

To the chief Musician, A Psalm of David. The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork. Day unto day uttereth speech, and night unto night sheweth knowledge. There is no speech nor language, where their voice is not heard. Their line is gone out through all the earth, and their words to the end of the world. In them hath he set a tabernacle for the sun, Which is as a bridegroom coming out of his chamber, and rejoiceth as a strong man to run a race. His going forth is from the end of the heaven, and his circuit unto the ends of it: and there is nothing hid from the heat thereof. (Psa 19:1-6)

Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them. For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: (Rom 1:19-20)

Obligations are taken on the holy book that the individual reveres. For most, that would be a Bible, but other religions would use other books.



Really?
And the LORD turned the captivity of Job, when he prayed for his friends: also the LORD gave Job twice as much as he had before. Then came there unto him all his brethren, and all his sisters, and all they that had been of his acquaintance before, and did eat bread with him in his house: and they bemoaned him, and comforted him over all the evil that the LORD had brought upon him: every man also gave him a piece of money, and every one an earring of gold. So the LORD blessed the latter end of Job more than his beginning: for he had fourteen thousand sheep, and six thousand camels, and a thousand yoke of oxen, and a thousand she asses. He had also seven sons and three daughters. And he called the name of the first, Jemima; and the name of the second, Kezia; and the name of the third, Kerenhappuch. And in all the land were no women found so fair as the daughters of Job: and their father gave them inheritance among their brethren. After this lived Job an hundred and forty years, and saw his sons, and his sons' sons, even four generations. So Job died, being old and full of days. (Job 42:10-17)

BOLD emphasis added. So, where in the Bible do you find that these daughters of Job were "all killed by satan (Evil)" as you claim?

FYI, there are several youth organizations related to Freemasonry, including Demolay and Rainbow. It appears you attempted to make a zinger and revealed yourself for what you are, one who bears false witness maliciously to support false doctrine.



No, that is the "teaching" of Leo Taxil who hoaxed the Roman Catholic Church with his fake antimasonic writings.

Yes, there is a quote that can be clipped in Morals & Dogma, but to use that, you have to deal with the Preface to Morals & Dogma I've already cited in this thread. It is not a teaching of the old degree rituals or the newer degree rituals.

Oh, why the "have to" on the Preface? Because if you cannot deal with it, then your source is only the hoax of the pornographer, grifter and hoaxer who was scamming the Catholics for cash.

Symbolically going from philosophical (intellectual) darkness to philosophical (intellectual) light. Has absolutely nothing to do with any religion's use of darkness to light.

Well, I guess if antimasons who claim to be Christian can't take things out of historical or literary context, they wouldn't have any context at all.
I find it amusing how much it exactly resembles the teachings of the antiBible and antiChristian lightweights you run across with their "proofs" about the Bible and Christianity. The listener is expected to look at their claims of truth and trust them implicitly without doing any actual research.
"The symbolism of the Master's Degree, as we have it now, is necessarily restricted to the First Temple and to the present life; although it reaches a climax in the assurance of a future life all without the aid of the Bible, God, Jesus Christ or the church." (John A. Hertel Company, "The Masonic Bible,' pages 10-11)

"The masonic doctrine of the unity of God teaches that: (1) The names of the different nature gods (Brahma, Baal, Om, On, Dagon, Osiris, Allah, Molech, and Shango), along with Jehovah, all denote the generative (reproductive) principle in nature. (2) All religions are essentially the same in their ideas of the divine. (3) It is for this express purpose that the simple Mason is instructed to look upon every man's religion as his own." (C. F. McQuaig and James D. Shaw, "The Masonic Report," page 8)
 

SimpleMan

Member
"The symbolism of the Master's Degree, as we have it now, is necessarily restricted to the First Temple and to the present life; although it reaches a climax in the assurance of a future life all without the aid of the Bible, God, Jesus Christ or the church." (John A. Hertel Company, "The Masonic Bible,' pages 10-11)

"The masonic doctrine of the unity of God teaches that: (1) The names of the different nature gods (Brahma, Baal, Om, On, Dagon, Osiris, Allah, Molech, and Shango), along with Jehovah, all denote the generative (reproductive) principle in nature. (2) All religions are essentially the same in their ideas of the divine. (3) It is for this express purpose that the simple Mason is instructed to look upon every man's religion as his own." (C. F. McQuaig and James D. Shaw, "The Masonic Report," page 8)
Come on now, you're better than this.

Stop Googling and do some real research! All you are doing is bringing up archaic quotes from people that have been disproven for decades.

Seriously, I've read some of your other posts on this site, and you're no dummy. What you're bringing to us is the equivalent of kindergarten nonsense.
 
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