Ask a mason anything you want to know!

[Markk]

How would we know ? Here is an idea, ask a Muslim and ask a Jew and then ask a Buddist to whom they pray and what they say, and do and/or ask for ? Too easy.

Read the context of my question in my last post...honestly can you see how SM was a bit off on his relies to me.

Also, as a Mason we do not ask for anything except good friends and good health, we are Masons not Priests we lay Bricks and Masonry and do Stone and Brick works

So, are all Masons are literally masons? That is a new one for me, my grandfather in law was a mason and an Antique Dealer. Are you literally a mason?

There seems to be a lot of cryptic ambiguous language going on here, I find it hard to believe all Masons are literally masons and brick layers. Do you lay brick, block, or stone for a living?

 

[rossh]

Well, that is simply where " masonry " originated, Masons built the Pyramids as well, bricks and stone and mortar but back then they did a lot of carpenters work..
Well as you ask, yes, I am a Bricklayer by Trade.
Maybe I forgot to say, these days, we have Operative Masons ( Bricklayers and Stone Masons ) then there are Speculative Masons, those in the Masonic Lodges..

 

[rossh]

Hebrew has NO letter J/j nor a letter X/x, this is just info for those interested.. BTW, when they write in English of course, they use all the letters that English has.

 

[Markk]

Well, that is simply where " masonry " originated, Masons built the Pyramids as well, bricks and stone and mortar but back then they did a lot of carpenters work..
Well as you ask, yes, I am a Bricklayer by Trade.
Maybe I forgot to say, these days, we have Operative Masons ( Bricklayers and Stone Masons ) then there are Speculative Masons, those in the Masonic Lodges..

What percentage of Masons are actually masons? my guess is there is a very small percentage that are actually Masons.

 

[Markk]

Hebrew has NO letter J/j nor a letter X/x, this is just info for those interested.. BTW, when they write in English of course, they use all the letters that English has.

I think most folks on this site understand that I learned it in my first Hebrew class. You implied it as if it meant something in regard to SM's assertions. It has nothing to do with my question and SM's answer that Masons pray in Christs name.

Thanks

 

[rossh]

I think most folks on this site understand that I learned it in my first Hebrew class. You implied it as if it meant something in regard to SM's assertions. It has nothing to do with my question and SM's answer that Masons pray in Christs name.

Thanks

I never implied any such things at all, if you think I or any one else here is scared of you well, think again, I will say exactly what I mean to say, sic!
What do YOU know about speculative Masons any way ? I am both an Operative and a Speculative Mason myself and, if you want to know about Masons just simply ask ?
Just keep all of your suppositions, about what other people may or may not mean to say, to yourself. I and all others here will post what ever we wish to post, within the Rules of course. Who on earth told you that Masons " pray " in Christ's Name anyway ?

 

[rossh]

What percentage of Masons are actually masons? my guess is there is a very small percentage that are actually Masons.

What on earth are you asking here ? lol Masons are NOT Masons ? Is this your claim ? lol

 

[rossh]

Read the context of my question in my last post...honestly can you see how SM was a bit off on his relies to me.
Yes, I am a Mao

So, are all Masons are literally masons? That is a new one for me, my grandfather in law was a mason and an Antique Dealer. Are you literally a mason?

There seems to be a lot of cryptic ambiguous language going on here, I find it hard to believe all Masons are literally masons and brick layers. Do you lay brick, block, or stone for a living?

Yes, you have been told this already, I am an OPERATIVE Masons ie; a Bricklayer and or a Block Layer and or a Stoneworker..

 

[Markk]

I never implied any such things at all, if you think I or any one else here is scared of you well, think again, I will say exactly what I mean to say, sic!
What do YOU know about speculative Masons any way ? I am both an Operative and a Speculative Mason myself and, if you want to know about Masons just simply ask ?
Just keep all of your suppositions, about what other people may or may not mean to say, to yourself. I and all others here will post what ever we wish to post, within the Rules of course. Who on earth told you that Masons " pray " in Christ's Name anyway ?

LOL, I did ask, from two different Masons and I got two different answers> So given that, what am I to think?

Who on earth told you that Masons " pray " in Christ's Name anyway ?

Read the thread and my posts, I already told you who did, and you can read it yourself with a little effort...read post 124.

 

[rossh]

I think most folks on this site understand that I learned it in my first Hebrew class. You implied it as if it meant something in regard to SM's assertions. It has nothing to do with my question and SM's answer that Masons pray in Christs name.

Thanks

? one day you will actually reply to questions, so again where does the name and letter J/Jesus come from then, in regards to the Hebrew ? Also what is the true meaning of the name Jesus ? as opposed to the true name of Yeshua which means " salvation " ?

Matthew 1:
18 Here is how the birth of Yeshua the Messiah took place. When his mother Miryam was engaged to Yosef, before they were married, she was found to be pregnant from the Ruach HaKodesh.
19 Her husband-to-be, Yosef, was a man who did what was right; so he made plans to break the engagement quietly, rather than put her to public shame.
20 But while he was thinking about this, an angel of ADONAI appeared to him in a dream and said, "Yosef, son of David, do not be afraid to take Miryam home with you as your wife; for what has been conceived in her is from the Ruach HaKodesh.
21 She will give birth to a son, and you are to name him Yeshua, [which means `ADONAI saves,'] because he will save his people from their sins."
22 All this happened in order to fulfill what ADONAI had said through the prophet,
23 "The virgin will conceive and bear a son, and they will call him `Immanu El."a (The name means, "God is with us.")
24 When Yosef awoke he did what the angel of ADONAI had told him to do -- he took Miryam home to be his wife,
25 but he did not have sexual relations with her until she had given birth to a son, and he named him Yeshua.

 

[rossh]

LOL, I did ask, from two different Masons and I got two different answers> So given that, what am I to think?



Read the thread and my posts, I already told you who did, and you can read it yourself with a little effort...read post 124.

Golly, what makes YOU think that I want to read YOUR hate filled posts ? Maybe the Masons in the USA do this but why not join Masonry and go find out for yourself ? Then you can babble with knowledge instead of suppositions, now that would be good ?
There are many different Masonic Lodges and they all have their particular issues and dealing and formats etc; etc;..

 

[Markk]

What on earth are you asking here ? lol Masons are NOT Masons ? Is this your claim ? lol

Your wrote..."...we are Masons not Priests we lay Bricks and Masonry and do Stone and Brick works..."

Focus on what you write please. I am just trying to understand you here.

 

[Markk]

Golly, what makes YOU think that I want to read YOUR hate filled posts ? Maybe the Masons in the USA do this but why not join Masonry and go find out for yourself ? Then you can babble with knowledge instead of suppositions, now that would be good ?

LOL...Hate? I am just trying to get a straight answer out of you?

 

[rossh]

Same ol same ol now, lets get it straight, WHAT EXACTLY IS YOUR QUESTION THEN ? Before you do, if it is about a certain Masonic Lodge, I may not know the answer as there are several styles/types of Lodges and Meetings which, are not known to those of us who are/were new in Masonry.
BTW, when you do ask a question ask a straight Q and not suppositions, then you will get a straight answer, except for issues regarded as Masonic Secrets of course..

 

[Markk]

? one day you will actually reply to questions, so again where does the name and letter J/Jesus come from then, in regards to the Hebrew ? Also what is the true meaning of the name Jesus ? as opposed to the true name of Yeshua which means " salvation " ?

Matthew 1:
18 Here is how the birth of Yeshua the Messiah took place. When his mother Miryam was engaged to Yosef, before they were married, she was found to be pregnant from the Ruach HaKodesh.
19 Her husband-to-be, Yosef, was a man who did what was right; so he made plans to break the engagement quietly, rather than put her to public shame.
20 But while he was thinking about this, an angel of ADONAI appeared to him in a dream and said, "Yosef, son of David, do not be afraid to take Miryam home with you as your wife; for what has been conceived in her is from the Ruach HaKodesh.
21 She will give birth to a son, and you are to name him Yeshua, [which means `ADONAI saves,'] because he will save his people from their sins."
22 All this happened in order to fulfill what ADONAI had said through the prophet,
23 "The virgin will conceive and bear a son, and they will call him `Immanu El."a (The name means, "God is with us.")
24 When Yosef awoke he did what the angel of ADONAI had told him to do -- he took Miryam home to be his wife,
25 but he did not have sexual relations with her until she had given birth to a son, and he named him Yeshua.

What does any of this have to do with Masonry?

How do you know YHWH translates to Yeshua, why not Yahweh or even Jehovah?

What you are arguing here is just a diversion, I guess, to avoid something with the Masonic religion, faith, club, secret society, or maybe cult...I have no idea, which is why I asked a simple fair question and received conflicting answers from two different masons.

 

[Markk]

Same ol same ol now, lets get it straight, WHAT EXACTLY IS YOUR QUESTION THEN ? Before you do, if it is about a certain Masonic Lodge, I may not know the answer as there are several styles/types of Lodges and Meetings which, are not known to those of us who are/were new in Masonry.
BTW, when you do ask a question ask a straight Q and not suppositions, then you will get a straight answer, except for issues regarded as Masonic Secrets of course..

Read post 119, that was my original question. This is not rocket science. You claim you pray to different gods; SM claimed you use the Bible and pray in the name of the Father son and HG...so given that I see a clear contradiction.

 

[rossh]

Hebrew has NO J, sooooooooooooooooooooo, who is Jesus then, did not God tell Yoseph to NAME HIM, Yeshua and not " jesus ".

Good of you ignoring this before,,
Matt 1:
18 Here is how the birth of Yeshua the Messiah took place. When his mother Miryam was engaged to Yosef, before they were married, she was found to be pregnant from the Ruach HaKodesh.
19 Her husband-to-be, Yosef, was a man who did what was right; so he made plans to break the engagement quietly, rather than put her to public shame.
20 But while he was thinking about this, an angel of ADONAI appeared to him in a dream and said, "Yosef, son of David, do not be afraid to take Miryam home with you as your wife; for what has been conceived in her is from the Ruach HaKodesh.
21 She will give birth to a son, and you are to name him Yeshua, [which means `ADONAI saves,'] because he will save his people from their sins."
22 All this happened in order to fulfill what ADONAI had said through the prophet,
23 "The virgin will conceive and bear a son, and they will call him " Immanu El." (The name means, "God is with us.")
24 When Yosef awoke he did what the angel of ADONAI had told him to do -- he took Miryam home to be his wife,
25 but he did not have sexual relations with her until she had given birth to a son, and he named him Yeshua.

 

[rossh]

Read post 119, that was my original question. This is not rocket science. You claim you pray to different gods; SM claimed you use the Bible and pray in the name of the Father son and HG...so given that I see a clear contradiction.

nope, a lie, i never have prayed to different gods..
hey i just went back to post 119, NOTHING was said about God and or prayers as such.. I am not allowed to teach you about Masonic issues, go join a Lodge near you, if they will have you ?

 

[rossh]

Honest question: Do Masons pray openly in their meetings? And if so, who do they pray too?

God of course.

 

[Markk]

nope, a lie, i never have prayed to different gods

I did not say you did, you said Mansons do. Focus on my question! Did you read my question in MY OP?