Atheist or Agnostic

Temujin

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You know there are many calendars that have been kept for many years. The year numbers are based on just counting the years,
No calendar older than 6000 years.
The world's oldest calendar is Warren Fields, a Mesolithic pit calendar in Scotland. It is 10,000 years old.
 

Temujin

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They did not unearth a calendar counting by year from 10,000 years ago.

It says evidence of a 10,000 year old calendar system. There is no running count until today.
So what? It can be dated accurately. It works the same way now as it did then, if you make adjustments for the relative changes
 

SavedByTheLord

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So what? It can be dated accurately. It works the same way now as it did then, if you make adjustments for the relative changes
But the dating is an assumption that does not pan out.
In fact, why are there no calendar systems, with a running count of years that are older than 6000 years.
Obviously, they were smart enough to count years.
 

Temujin

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But the dating is an assumption that does not pan out.
In fact, why are there no calendar systems, with a running count of years that are older than 6000 years.
Obviously, they were smart enough to count years.
You do realise that calendars are cultural artifacts, don't you? When cultures change, so do calendar systems.
 

Pogo

Active member
You want a calendar that goes past 6000 years how about one that relies only on the regularity of the world, whether god made it or not. We have quite a few places on earth with annual layers of ice going back 100,000 years or more. These not only record the changes in seasons as reliably as the change in seasons, but they also record major events such as volcanic eruptions which can be dated by other methods than plain counting and these other methods confirm the ice core dates. We observe these layers forming every year. The only assumptions here are that we can count and that there is no supernatural intervention such as a trickster god making up a false record. These records / calendars show no evidence of a flood 6000 years ago.
 

SavedByTheLord

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You want a calendar that goes past 6000 years how about one that relies only on the regularity of the world, whether god made it or not. We have quite a few places on earth with annual layers of ice going back 100,000 years or more. These not only record the changes in seasons as reliably as the change in seasons, but they also record major events such as volcanic eruptions which can be dated by other methods than plain counting and these other methods confirm the ice core dates. We observe these layers forming every year. The only assumptions here are that we can count and that there is no supernatural intervention such as a trickster god making up a false record. These records / calendars show no evidence of a flood 6000 years ago.
The worldwide flood would have produced these at a very accelerated rate.
Look at the rock layers in the Grand Canyon. All that in one year from the flood.
 

Temujin

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The worldwide flood would have produced these at a very accelerated rate.
Look at the rock layers in the Grand Canyon. All that in one year from the flood.
No it wouldn't. How can a flood accelerate the rotation of the earth around the sun? You do know that is what causes the seasons, don't you? The layers of rock in the Grand Canyon are well studied by actual geologists. They do not all come from the same year of the flood. The notion is stupidity on stilts.
 
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