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Furion

Well-known member
Do you understand my point about reciprocity?
What does it have to do with my question?

If you think that happens in this place you are not thinking clearly. And this place is long past trying to achieve it.

They should ban all of us and start over. Enforce the rules about blasphemous posts and denigrating God and His Christ, as a start.

Then I might consider your reciprocity concept.
 

Nouveau

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They should ban all of us and start over. Enforce the rules about blasphemous posts and denigrating God and His Christ, as a start.
Speak for yourself. Management did pretty well removing your recent rule-breaking and very offensive post.
 

Gus Bovona

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What does it have to do with my question?

If you think that happens in this place you are not thinking clearly. And this place is long past trying to achieve it.

They should ban all of us and start over. Enforce the rules about blasphemous posts and denigrating God and His Christ, as a start.

Then I might consider your reciprocity concept.
You've lost track of the context when I brought up reciprocity. The context wasn't here at CARM, it was in my community:
Of course I do plenty of trying to persuade people to think clearly when I'm at my organization's atheist booth.

And, I'm not going to answer a question that you've asked after I asked whether you understood my point about reciprocity until you answer whether you understood my point about reciprocity. Fair is fair, first things first.
 

Furion

Well-known member
You've lost track of the context when I brought up reciprocity. The context wasn't here at CARM, it was in my community:
Oh, you mean your proselytizing.
And, I'm not going to answer a question that you've asked after I asked whether you understood my point about reciprocity until you answer whether you understood my point about reciprocity. Fair is fair, first things first.
I did answer, now answer my question.
 

Gus Bovona

Well-known member
Oh, you mean your proselytizing.

I did answer, now answer my question.
I scanned the last several pages here and didn't find anything by you that answered my question. If you can quote a post of yours that you think answered my question, I'm happy to answer your question (assuming the post you quote actually does answer my question).
 

Furion

Well-known member
I scanned the last several pages here and didn't find anything by you that answered my question. If you can quote a post of yours that you think answered my question, I'm happy to answer your question (assuming the post you quote actually does answer my question).
Yes, post 101 is all that need said. If that is insufficient for you then you'll just have to be satisfied. I am satisfied in the responses you've given because I don't have any expectations.
 

Gus Bovona

Well-known member
Yes, post 101 is all that need said. If that is insufficient for you then you'll just have to be satisfied. I am satisfied in the responses you've given because I don't have any expectations.
Exactly what part of post 101 do you think answers the question, "Do you understand my point about reciprocity?"

If you think all of it does, can you explain how it answers my question, because I see nothing in there that would comes close.

In fact, post 101 says that you haven't even considered my point about reciprocity. It says so explicitly. And it's you saying it! How can you have answered my question in post 101 when post 101 establishes you haven't considered it yet?
 

Furion

Well-known member
Exactly what part of post 101 do you think answers the question, "Do you understand my point about reciprocity?"
All of it.
If you think all of it does, can you explain how it answers my question, because I see nothing in there that would comes close.

In fact, post 101 says that you haven't even considered my point about reciprocity. It says so explicitly. And it's you saying it! How can you have answered my question in post 101 when post 101 establishes you haven't considered it yet?
Yes, your simple idea is clear, and the reasons it is meaningless to me are provided.
 

Gus Bovona

Well-known member
All of it.

Yes, your simple idea is clear,
Finally! Although you couldn't resist the pejorative "simple," this is actually an answer to my question. If my reciprocity idea is clear to you, then you understand it.
and the reasons it is meaningless to me are provided.
Yeah, it took so long for you to answer such a simple question of mine, that I've lost enthusiasm for continuing this conversation with you. Bye bye, you can have the last word.
 

Furion

Well-known member
Finally! Although you couldn't resist the pejorative "simple," this is actually an answer to my question.
There is no other way to describe it, unless you think you are providing anything but simple information.

So, it is a description, and not one of those "pejorative" you see everywhere you look.

If my reciprocity idea is clear to you, then you understand it.

Yeah, it took so long for you to answer such a simple question of mine, that I've lost enthusiasm for continuing this conversation with you. Bye bye, you can have the last word.
lol

Yes, you being the nice guy seems to be out the window.

You do know I can see you behind your mask, right?
 

Whatsisface

Well-known member
They should ban all of us and start over. Enforce the rules about blasphemous posts and denigrating God and His Christ, as a start.
You would ban free speech then? All institutions should be open to criticism in a healthy democracy, including religion. This is a place for debating the existence of God and you see denegration behind every corner, in your shadow and under your bed. Considering this and your lack of meaningful posts, perhaps this isn't the best place for you.
 

Whatsisface

Well-known member
I'll type slower.
Excellent idea, that way you'll capture your thoughts more thoroughly.

This forum should be cleared out and restarted.

Then, the minute some person starts denigrating Christ they get tossed.
The problem with your assessment is that you see sincere, legitimate questions as denigration. The consequence of following your take on this would be censorship. Considering you live in the land of the free, I wonder at you taking this line particularly as all institutions should be open to criticism and satire in a healthy democracy.
 

Furion

Well-known member
Excellent idea, that way you'll capture your thoughts more thoroughly.


The problem with your assessment is that you see sincere, legitimate questions as denigration. The consequence of following your take on this would be censorship. Considering you live in the land of the free, I wonder at you taking this line particularly as all institutions should be open to criticism and satire in a healthy democracy.
The problem with your idea is you thinking yourself as asking "honest and legitimate questions."

You can think that, ok.
 

Whatsisface

Well-known member
The problem with your idea is you thinking yourself as asking "honest and legitimate questions."

You can think that, ok.
The problem here is you. Most of your posts display a negative attitude to atheists in that they can do no right. That is an unrealistic bias on your part.
 

Furion

Well-known member
The problem here is you. Most of your posts display a negative attitude to atheists in that they can do no right. That is an unrealistic bias on your part.
The problem here is you. Most of your posts display a negative attitude to christians in that they can do no right. This is an unrealistic bias on your part.
 

Whatsisface

Well-known member
The problem here is you. Most of your posts display a negative attitude to christians in that they can do no right. This is an unrealistic bias on your part.
This is not true. If someone is rude and insulting to me I will give as good as I get in return, note in return. But if someone wants to discuss issues I will do so impartially. You don't discuss and mostly sneer.
 
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