Atheists/Nazis in their contempt for God and humanity call babies "parasites"

Electric Skeptic

Electric Skeptic

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rossh said:
Well yes, I see your point but again also, the definition of " atheist " is " a person who denies the existence of a god or The one True God "..
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No, it's not. An atheist is someone who lacks belief in the existence of gods.

No positive position is required.
 
rossh

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Temujin said:
Not at all. The definition of an atheist is one who lacks a belief in Gods. There is no requirement to deny anything. Your definition would include fervent believers in any God that isn't the "True God", which could include you, if your belief is mistaken. Of course, you are certain that your belief is true, but then that is the point of believing, isn't it? Believers in other gods are similarly convinced that their belief is true also. Atheists lack the ability to convince themselves without sufficient evidence.
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lol, you state " Gods ", so, there many One True GODS " are there ? Try 1 Cor 8... see how that goes ?
 
rossh

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Temujin said:
Not at all. The definition of an atheist is one who lacks a belief in Gods. There is no requirement to deny anything. Your definition would include fervent believers in any God that isn't the "True God", which could include you, if your belief is mistaken. Of course, you are certain that your belief is true, but then that is the point of believing, isn't it? Believers in other gods are similarly convinced that their belief is true also. Atheists lack the ability to convince themselves without sufficient evidence.
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I quoted actual Scripture and you say NO to Gods Word... seriously ??
 
rossh

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Electric Skeptic said:
You know that atheists don't believe that it is the word of any god, right?
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Not really, it is hard to get a straight answer from any of those atheists .. No one can talk sense to them and besides, it is their own choice. The vast universe and the atoms etc; are just accidents to them ands maybe they are as well ? I mean, who knows ?? How can there even be " accidents " anyway ?
Myself ?? yes indeed, I truly do believe The Word Of God alone...
 
Temujin

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rossh said:
I quoted actual Scripture and you say NO to Gods Word... seriously ??
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Yes, seriously. I also say no to all other supposed words of the various gods thought to be the true God by mistaken believers. I am an atheist. The Bible has no authority to me. Neither dies the God that you believe in but I don't.
 
rossh

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Temujin said:
Yes, seriously. I also say no to all other supposed words of the various gods thought to be the true God by mistaken believers. I am an atheist. The Bible has no authority to me. Neither dies the God that you believe in but I don't.
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Temujin said:
Yes, seriously. I also say no to all other supposed words of the various gods thought to be the true God by mistaken believers. I am an atheist. The Bible has no authority to me. Neither dies the God that you believe in but I don't.
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well then, once we step over that threshold from life to death, then there is NO turning back... then you are on your own...
My I suppose that since you do NOT believe in God at all, you just come here to do what exactly ? Try to convert us to eternal hell or something ? There must be a good reason why a dedicated NON believers goes online to a " religious " website ?
 
Temujin

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rossh said:
well then, once we step over that threshold from life to death, then there is NO turning back... then you are on your own...
My I suppose that since you do NOT believe in God at all, you just come here to do what exactly ? Try to convert us to eternal hell or something ? There must be a good reason why a dedicated NON believers goes online to a " religious " website ?
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Well let's see... I am on a secular section of the site, on the abortion board arguing about the rights of women to have abortion. That has nothing to do with religious belief at all. Any believers who are pro-choice, and there are many, I agree with. Any atheists who are "pro-life", I disagree with. The person dragging religion into this issue is you. When your religion spills over into areas of life where it has no place or authority, then you will be called out.

If you object to the presence of atheists here you should look to the site owners who set up this safe sand pit for you to hone your skills in debating atheists. It is hardly my fault that your skills are not sufficiently developed for you to manage even here.
 
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Temujin said:
Well let's see... I am on a secular section of the site, on the abortion board arguing about the rights of women to have abortion. That has nothing to do with religious belief at all. Any believers who are pro-choice, and there are many, I agree with. Any atheists who are "pro-life", I disagree with. The person dragging religion into this issue is you. When your religion spills over into areas of life where it has no place or authority, then you will be called out.

If you object to the presence of atheists here you should look to the site owners who set up this safe sand pit for you to hone your skills in debating atheists. It is hardly my fault that your skills are not sufficiently developed for you to manage even here.
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But you are on a forum section where others are debating the rights of the unborn human to a life.
It just so happens religious views support that right in the face of mostly secular and atheist opposition.
But the religion/atheism isnt the crucial bit.
You deny the right of the unborn human because you dont recognise it as viable. Yet it is still is the unborn human. In pro-choice abortion the mother has created the offspring so the choice has been made so when you say the mother has a right to kill the offspring that is as bad as the Taliban. Woke is not good. Its a very bad outcome for society as well
 
Temujin

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BMS said:
But you are on a forum section where others are debating the rights of the unborn human to a life.
It just so happens religious views support that right in the face of mostly secular and atheist opposition.
But the religion/atheism isnt the crucial bit.
You deny the right of the unborn human because you dont recognise it as viable. Yet it is still is the unborn human. In pro-choice abortion the mother has created the offspring so the choice has been made so when you say the mother has a right to kill the offspring that is as bad as the Taliban. Woke is not good. Its a very bad outcome for society as well
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All this is totally irrelevant to the post I was replying to. Butt out.
 
Whateverman

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rossh said:
well then, once we step over that threshold from life to death, then there is NO turning back... then you are on your own...
My I suppose that since you do NOT believe in God at all, you just come here to do what exactly ? Try to convert us to eternal hell or something ? There must be a good reason why a dedicated NON believers goes online to a " religious " website ?
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There are many good reasons. The main one (for me, but I can't speak for Temujin) is to debunk the lies your people routinely spread about people and practices you don't like.
 
Beloved Daughter

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Temujin said:
Why would liberals or progressives want to create anything Marxist? You seem to have your labels muddled up. And what do you mean by intersectionality? My post concerned the sectarianism in Christianity that undermines it as an authority on truth. Your post is on the face of it a random jumble of buzzwords that has no bearing on my post whatsoever. Can you elucidate?
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You can't deal with the facts, so you fall into personal attacks. The sign of a failed argument.
 
Electric Skeptic

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rossh said:
Not really
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Then you need to go learn about atheists. They don't believe in a god; they cannot believe that any holy book is his word.
rossh said:
it is hard to get a straight answer from any of those atheists ..
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No, it's not. Ask any question. You'll get an answer.
rossh said:
No one can talk sense to them and besides, it is their own choice.
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Everything is that person's own choice.
rossh said:
The vast universe and the atoms etc; are just accidents to them
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No, it's not.
rossh said:
ands maybe they are as well ? I mean, who knows ?? How can there even be " accidents " anyway ?
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I've no idea - you're the one talking about accidents.
rossh said:
Myself ?? yes indeed, I truly do believe The Word Of God alone...
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Great. Atheists don't.
 
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