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[JonHawk]

The Blindness of Disobedience
Blind yourselves and be blind! They are drunk, but not with wine;
They grope in darkness with no light;

Now this I know: The Lord gives victory to his anointed. He answers him from his heavenly sanctuary with the victorious power of his right hand.
Psalm 20:6
When I entered the sanctuary of God; then I understood their final destiny.
Surely you place them on slippery ground; you cast them down to ruin. Psalm 73:18-19

You're the one babbling about your religion, everybody knows the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ.

You did not choose me, but I chose you and appointed you so that you might go and bear fruit—fruit that will last forever John 15:16

Tell the righteous it will be well with them, for they will enjoy the fruit of their deeds. Isaiah 3:10

“I create the fruit of the lips: Peace, peace to him who is far off and to him who is near,” Says the Lord, “And I will heal him.” Isaiah 57:19

we can all simply just quote Scriptures and thus, seem to be known to be able to understand their meanings..
all non believers who frequent religious style website come to put believers down while putting themselves down to hell.

The Sin-Bearing Messiah
Who has believed our report? And to whom has the arm of the Lord been revealed? Isaiah 53:1

The Discerner of Hearts
Now when He was in Jerusalem at the Passover, during the feast, many believed in His name; John 2:23

For Christ, our Passover lamb, has been sacrificed. Therefore let us keep the Feast with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth. 1 Cor 5:7-8

Now that you have tasted that the Lord is good.
Coming to Him as to a living stone, rejected indeed by men, but chosen by God...
As it is also contained in the Scripture, “Behold, I lay in Zion A chief cornerstone, elect, precious,
And he who believes in Him... ” 1 Peter 2 Shall not come into judgment, but has passed from death into life. John 5:24

 

[JonHawk]

The Sin-Bearing Messiah Who has believed our report? And to whom has the arm of the Lord been revealed? Isaiah 53:1
The Discerner of Hearts Now when He was in Jerusalem at the Passover, during the feast, many believed in His name; John 2:23
For Christ, our Passover lamb, has been sacrificed. Therefore let us keep the Feast with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth. 1 Cor 5:7-8
Now that you have tasted that the Lord is good.
Coming to Him as to a living stone, rejected indeed by men, but chosen by God...
As it is also contained in the Scripture, “Behold, I lay in Zion A chief cornerstone, elect, precious,
And he who believes in Him... ” 1 Peter 2 Shall not come into judgment, but has passed from death into life. John 5:24

HIS REAL Name is Yeshua not " Jesus " there is NO " J " in the Jewish/Hebrew alphabet, seriously ?

" Boasting on your religion isn't going to help. " seriously, this proves what in your little brain ? and yes you do seem to need all the HELP you can get... so get some!!

Where have I heard that lil' song? Oh, yeah,

'It's plain to see, your brain is very small,​

but I'm still knocking down that wall!'​

Through the gospel the Gentiles are partakers together with Israel, members together of one body, and sharers together in the promise in Christ Jesus.

1 Cor 1:24-25
For the foolishness of God is wiser than all you religious drunks combined, who don't know the way of peace.

As though the drunkard could be included with the sober.

So that there may not be among you man or woman or family or tribe, whose heart turns away today from the Lord our God, to go and serve the gods of these nations, and that there may not be among you a root bearing bitterness or wormwood; 19 and so it may not happen, when he hears the words of this curse, that he blesses himself in his heart, saying, ‘I shall have peace, even though I follow the dictates of my heart’—as though the drunkard could be included with the sober

This one is on you @Newbirth

Work it out it so that you are sober-minded at the revelation of Jesus Christ.

 

[rossh]

Where have I heard that lil' song? Oh, yeah,

'It's plain to see, your brain is very small,​

but I'm still knocking down that wall!'​

Through the gospel the Gentiles are partakers together with Israel, members together of one body, and sharers together in the promise in Christ Jesus.

1 Cor 1:24-25
For the foolishness of God is wiser than all you religious drunks combined, who don't know the way of peace.

As though the drunkard could be included with the sober.

So that there may not be among you man or woman or family or tribe, whose heart turns away today from the Lord our God, to go and serve the gods of these nations, and that there may not be among you a root bearing bitterness or wormwood; 19 and so it may not happen, when he hears the words of this curse, that he blesses himself in his heart, saying, ‘I shall have peace, even though I follow the dictates of my heart’—as though the drunkard could be included with the sober

This one is on you @Newbirth

Work it out it so that you are sober-minded at the revelation of Jesus Christ.

HELLOOO AGAIN, any one Home ? The lights may be on, but no one seems to be home today..
HIS REAL GIVEN TRUE NAME IS, YESHUA and HE alone is the MESSIAH.....


Matthew 1:13 Z'rubavel was the father of Avihud, Avihud was the father of Elyakim, Elyakim was the father of `Azur, 14 `Azur was the father of Tzadok, Tzadok was the father of Yakhin, Yakhin was the father of El'ichud, 15 El'ichud was the father of El`azar, El`azar was the father of Mattan, Mattan was the father of Ya`akov, 16 Ya`akov was the father of Yosef the husband of Miryam, from whom was born the Yeshua who was called the Messiah. 17 Thus there were fourteen generations from Avraham to David, fourteen generations from David to the Babylonian Exile, and fourteen generations from the Babylonian Exile to the Messiah. 18 Here is how the birth of Yeshua the Messiah took place. When his mother Miryam was engaged to Yosef, before they were married, she was found to be pregnant from the Ruach HaKodesh. 19 Her husband-to-be, Yosef, was a man who did what was right; so he made plans to break the engagement quietly, rather than put her to public shame. 20 But while he was thinking about this, an angel of ADONAI appeared to him in a dream and said, "Yosef, son of David, do not be afraid to take Miryam home with you as your wife; for what has been conceived in her is from the Ruach HaKodesh. 21 She will give birth to a son, and you are to name him Yeshua, [which means `ADONAI saves,'] because he will save his people from their sins." 22 All this happened in order to fulfill what ADONAI had said through the prophet, 23 "The virgin will conceive and bear a son, and they will call him `Immanu El."a (The name means, "God is with us.")24 When Yosef awoke he did what the angel of ADONAI had told him to do -- he took Miryam home to be his wife, 25 but he did not have sexual relations with her until she had given birth to a son, and he named him Yeshua.

Sing for your supper all that you like, but it never does your cult any good what so ever..
You go work it out for yourself and do not worry about me, I smell your filthy cult from over the seas, lol ..
Time for you to go straight TO the Messiah Yeshua asap before your time is up... He died for all of us who truly believe in Him alone!!

 

[rossh]

Abraham did not waver at the promise of God through unbelief, but was strengthened in faith, giving glory to God,
And therefore it was imputed to him for righteousness.
For us also who believe in Him who raised up Jesus our Lord from the dead, who died for our sins, and was raised to life for our justification.

I have been crucified with Christ and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself for me.


Obviously it's a problem for those who claim to have faith in a ritual for atonement of sins.

"These are they which testify of Me." John 5:39 And you are witnesses of these things. Luke 24:45-49

Have you not read in the very good Bible of your own,
The stone which the builders rejected Has become the chief cornerstone Ps:118:22, Mt 21:42 ?

But he is a Jew who is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the Spirit, not in the letter; whose praise is not from men but from God. Rom 2:29

Jesus Christ is the Reason for the Season! May God bless you too!

lol ?? why start yapping on about old Abraham ? we are not talking about the OT Jews, those who lost the plot. Well sigh ?? you apparently seem to be lost in time some how..
HELLO!! The One True Messiah has come and gone back to His Father God already, cults need not apply... the job of " salvation " is over and has been done already and correctly and any can apply..

 

[JonHawk]

lol ?? why start yapping on about old Abraham ?

Because those who have faith are children of Abraham. Gal 3:7 He clearly gives help to the seed of Abraham.

we are not talking about the OT Jews, those who lost the plot. Well sigh ?? you apparently seem to be lost in time some how..

He redeemed us in order that the blessing given to Abraham might come to the Gentiles through faith in Christ Jesus; Gal 3:14

HELLO!! The One True Messiah has come

Yes. thank you captain obvious,
He redeemed us in order that the blessing given to Abraham might come to the Gentiles through Christ Jesus, Gal 3:14

and gone back to His Father God already,

He who did not spare his own Son, but gave him up for us all—how will he not also, along with him, graciously give us all things? 33 Who will bring any charge against those whom God has chosen? It is God who justifies. 34 Who then is the one who condemns? No one. Christ Jesus who died—more than that, who was raised to life—is at the right hand of God and is also intercedes for us.

cults need not apply... the job of " salvation " is over and has been done already and correctly and any can apply..

Because He saves completely all who come to God through Him.

 

[rossh]

Because those who have faith are children of Abraham. Gal 3:7

He redeemed us in order that the blessing given to Abraham might come to the Gentiles through faith in Christ Jesus; Gal 3:14

Yes captain obvious,
He redeemed us in order that the blessing given to Abraham might come to the Gentiles through Christ Jesus, Gal 3:14

He who did not spare his own Son, but gave him up for us all—how will he not also, along with him, graciously give us all things? 33 Who will bring any charge against those whom God has chosen? It is God who justifies. 34 Who then is the one who condemns? No one. Christ Jesus who died—more than that, who was raised to life—is at the right hand of God and is also intercedes for us.


Because He saves completely all who come to God through Him.

Well YES!!! and as I have said on this Board/Room, over and over already, that He! Yehsua, IS JEWISH/Hebrew yes He is, Matthew 1 says this in fact from Matthew Chapter 1, from vs 18, and many other places in Scripture... Also in the Letters of the NT the writer in Galatians explains how we Gentiles are included in His birth/death ands resurrection and Salvation.. Blessings to you...

 

[JonHawk]

Because those who have faith are children of Abraham. Gal 3:7 He clearly gives help to the seed of Abraham.

He redeemed us in order that the blessing given to Abraham might come to the Gentiles through faith in Christ Jesus; Gal 3:14

Yes. thank you captain obvious,
He redeemed us in order that the blessing given to Abraham might come to the Gentiles through Christ Jesus, Gal 3:14

He who did not spare his own Son, but gave him up for us all—how will he not also, along with him, graciously give us all things? 33 Who will bring any charge against those whom God has chosen? It is God who justifies. 34 Who then is the one who condemns? No one. Christ Jesus who died—more than that, who was raised to life—is at the right hand of God and is also intercedes for us.

Because He saves completely all who come to God through Him.

HELLOOO AGAIN, any one Home ? The lights may be on, but no one seems to be home today..
HIS REAL GIVEN TRUE NAME IS, YESHUA and HE alone is the MESSIAH.....

Christ Our Cornerstone
Through Him we both have access by one Spirit to the Father.
Now, therefore, you are no longer strangers and foreigners, but fellow citizens with the saints and members of the household of God, 20 having been built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ Himself being the chief cornerstone, Eph 2

 

[rossh]

Christ Our Cornerstone
Through Him we both have access by one Spirit to the Father.
Now, therefore, you are no longer strangers and foreigners, but fellow citizens with the saints and members of the household of God, 20 having been built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ Himself being the chief cornerstone, Eph 2

Very close, not too sure aboyt RCC style ??

Matt 1:18 Here is how the birth of Yeshua the Messiah took place. When his mother Miryam was engaged to Yosef, before they were married, she was found to be pregnant from the Ruach HaKodesh. 19 Her husband-to-be, Yosef, was a man who did what was right; so he made plans to break the engagement quietly, rather than put her to public shame. 20 But while he was thinking about this, an angel of ADONAI appeared to him in a dream and said, "Yosef, son of David, do not be afraid to take Miryam home with you as your wife; for what has been conceived in her is from the Ruach HaKodesh. 21 She will give birth to a son, and you are to name him Yeshua, [which means `ADONAI saves,'] because he will save his people from their sins." 22 All this happened in order to fulfill what ADONAI had said through the prophet, 23 "The virgin will conceive and bear a son, and they will call him `Immanu El."a (The name means, "God is with us.") 24 When Yosef awoke he did what the angel of ADONAI had told him to do -- he took Miryam home to be his wife, 25 but he did not have sexual relations with her until she had given birth to a son, and he named him Yeshua.
Isaiah foretold this also.

 

[JonHawk]

JonHawk said:
Christ Our Cornerstone
Through Him we both have access by one Spirit to the Father.
Now, therefore, you are no longer strangers and foreigners, but fellow citizens with the saints and members of the household of God, 20 having been built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ Himself being the chief cornerstone, Eph 2

Very close, not too sure aboyt RCC style ??

The, Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God, style.

 

[rossh]

The, Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God, style.

also to be noted is.. Romans 10:8 What, then, does it say? "The word is near you, in your mouth and in your heart." l that is, the word about trust which we proclaim, namely, 9 that if you acknowledge publicly with your mouth that Yeshua is Lord and trust in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be delivered. 10 For with the heart one goes on trusting and thus continues toward righteousness, while with the mouth one keeps on making public acknowledgement and thus continues toward deliverance. 11 For the passage quoted says that everyone who rests his trust on him will not be humiliated.

 

[JonHawk]

rossh said:
lol ?? why start yapping on about old Abraham ?

Because those who have faith are children of Abraham. Gal 3:7 He clearly gives help to the seed of Abraham.

rossh said:
we are not talking about the OT Jews, those who lost the plot. Well sigh ?? you apparently seem to be lost in time some how..

He redeemed us in order that the blessing given to Abraham might come to the Gentiles through faith in Christ Jesus; Gal 3:14

also to be noted is.. Romans 10:8 What, then, does it say? "The word is near you, in your mouth and in your heart." l that is, the word about trust which we proclaim, namely, 9 that if you acknowledge publicly with your mouth that Yeshua is Lord and trust in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be delivered.

For the Lord is your life, and He will give you the blessing He swore to give to your fathers, Abraham... Deut 30:20

You will show love to Abraham, as you pledged on oath in days long ago. Micah 7:18-20

All who see them will acknowledge that they are a people the Lord has blessed.
I delight greatly in the Lord; my soul rejoices in my God. For he has clothed me with garments of salvation; Isaiah 61:9-10

If, in fact, Abraham was justified by works, he had something to boast about—but not before God. What does Scripture say? “Abraham believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness. Rom 4:2-8

 

[rossh]

Christ Our Cornerstone
Through Him we both have access by one Spirit to the Father.
Now, therefore, you are no longer strangers and foreigners, but fellow citizens with the saints and members of the household of God, 20 having been built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ Himself being the chief cornerstone, Eph 2

You are very welcome..
1 You stupid Galatians! Who has put you under a spell? Before your very eyes Yeshua the Messiah was clearly portrayed as having been put to death as a criminal! 2 I want to know from you just this one thing: did you receive the Spirit by legalistic observance of Torah commands or by trusting in what you heard and being faithful to it? Gal 3 if you like ?

 

[JonHawk]

Because those who have faith are children of Abraham. Gal 3:7 He clearly gives help to the seed of Abraham.
He redeemed us in order that the blessing given to Abraham might come to the Gentiles through faith in Christ Jesus; Gal 3:14
For the Lord is your life, and He will give you the blessing He swore to give to your fathers, Abraham... Deut 30:20
You will show love to Abraham, as you pledged on oath in days long ago. Micah 7:18-20
All who see them will acknowledge that they are a people the Lord has blessed.
I delight greatly in the Lord; my soul rejoices in my God. For he has clothed me with garments of salvation; Isaiah 61:9-10

You are very welcome..
1 You stupid Galatians! Who has put you under a spell? Before your very eyes Yeshua the Messiah was clearly portrayed as having been put to death as a criminal! 2 I want to know from you just this one thing: did you receive the Spirit by legalistic observance of Torah commands or by trusting in what you heard and being faithful to it? Gal 3 if you like ?

If, in fact, Abraham was justified by works, he had something to boast about—but not before God. What does Scripture say? “Abraham believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness. Rom 4:2-8, 23-25
So again I ask, does God give you his Spirit and work miracles among you by the works of the law, or by your believing what you heard? 6 So also Abraham “believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness. Gal 3

 

[rossh]

Because those who have faith are children of Abraham. Gal 3:7 He clearly gives help to the seed of Abraham.

He redeemed us in order that the blessing given to Abraham might come to the Gentiles through faith in Christ Jesus; Gal 3:14

For the Lord is your life, and He will give you the blessing He swore to give to your fathers, Abraham... Deut 30:20

You will show love to Abraham, as you pledged on oath in days long ago. Micah 7:18-20

All who see them will acknowledge that they are a people the Lord has blessed.
I delight greatly in the Lord; my soul rejoices in my God. For he has clothed me with garments of salvation; Isaiah 61:9-10

If, in fact, Abraham was justified by works, he had something to boast about—but not before God. What does Scripture say? “Abraham believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness. Rom 4:2-8

Oh ? just to be clear, so, you think that salvation is for Jews only, even though they killed their very own messiah ? well ? it sure appears that you think like that, as per most of your respective reply posts.. I witness/believe it is all about worldwide salvation, for all those who publicly declare Yeshua alone as their/our Lord and Savior!! So if your " versions of things " is good for you then that is your choice but for me only Gods Word will do and His Word is the one and only way...
Yes, I understand the quoted Scripture and I have been trying to witness them and many others but you seem to resent other believers being believers... salvation is not ONLY for YOU it is for all who believe that Yeshua is the real Messiah/Savior of all who trust in him alone.

The NT is the witnessing of the Messiah during His Life here on earth with and to Israel. Matt 15:24 He said, "I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Isra'el." 25 But she came, fell at his feet and said, "Sir, help me!" 26 He answered, "It is not right to take the children's food and toss it to their pet dogs." 27 She said, "That is true, sir, but even the dogs eat the leftovers that fall from their master's table." 28 Then Yeshua answered her, "Lady, you are a person of great trust. Let your desire be granted."

 

[rossh]

If, in fact, Abraham was justified by works, he had something to boast about—but not before God. What does Scripture say? “Abraham believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness. Rom 4:2-8
So again I ask, does God give you his Spirit and work miracles among you by the works of the law, or by your believing what you heard? 6 So also Abraham “believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness. Gal 3

OBVIOUSLY, neither YOU nor I have seen nor heard Yeshua in Person, ie; so as to shake His hand and to thank Him face to face!! duh? of Course it is by MY faith that I hope and trust and believe, and which has nothing at all to do with you or any of your " doings " so to speak.. Surly you have to know this ? Yes, all of the 66 Books make up the clear and present Bible..

 

[JonHawk]

JonHawk said:
Because those who have faith are children of Abraham. Gal 3:7 He clearly gives help to the seed of Abraham.
He redeemed us in order that the blessing given to Abraham might come to the Gentiles through faith in Christ Jesus; Gal 3:14
For the Lord is your life, and He will give you the blessing He swore to give to your fathers, Abraham... Deut 30:20
You will show love to Abraham, as you pledged on oath in days long ago. Micah 7:18-20
All who see them will acknowledge that they are a people the Lord has blessed.
I delight greatly in the Lord; my soul rejoices in my God. For he has clothed me with garments of salvation; Isaiah 61:9-10

Oh ? just to be clear, so, you think that salvation is for Jews only, even though they killed their very own messiah ?

This is like talking to a brick wall. I already told you that a Jew is one inwardly. Romans 2:29
There is neither Jew nor Gentile... for you are all one in Christ Jesus. Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise. Gal 3

 

[rossh]

The Sin-Bearing Messiah
Who has believed our report? And to whom has the arm of the Lord been revealed? Isaiah 53:1

The Discerner of Hearts
Now when He was in Jerusalem at the Passover, during the feast, many believed in His name; John 2:23

For Christ, our Passover lamb, has been sacrificed. Therefore let us keep the Feast with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth. 1 Cor 5:7-8

Now that you have tasted that the Lord is good.
Coming to Him as to a living stone, rejected indeed by men, but chosen by God...
As it is also contained in the Scripture, “Behold, I lay in Zion A chief cornerstone, elect, precious,
And he who believes in Him... ” 1 Peter 2 Shall not come into judgment, but has passed from death into life. John 5:24

Isa 29:8 It will be like a hungry man dreaming he's eating; but when he wakes up, his stomach is empty; or like a thirsty man dreaming he's drinking; but when he wakes up, he is dry and exhausted - it will be like this for the horde of all nations fighting against Mount Tziyon.

9 If you make yourselves stupid, you will stay stupid! If you blind yourselves, you will stay blind! You are drunk, but not from wine; you are staggering, but not from strong liquor.

10 For ADONAI has poured over you a spirit of lethargy; he has closed your eyes (that is, the prophets) and covered your heads (that is, the seers).

11 For you this whole prophetic vision has become like the message in a sealed-up scroll. When one gives it to someone who can read and says, "Please read this," he answers, "I can't, because it's sealed."

12 If the scroll is given to someone who can't read with the request, "Please read this," he says, "I can't read."

13 Then Adonai said: "Because these people approach me with empty words, and the honor they bestow on me is mere lip-service; while in fact they have distanced their hearts from me, and their 'fear of me' is just a mitzvah of human origin

14 therefore, I will have to keep shocking these people with astounding and amazing things, until the 'wisdom' of their 'wise ones' vanishes, and the 'discernment' of their 'discerning ones' is hidden away."

 

[rossh]

JonHawk said:
Because those who have faith are children of Abraham. Gal 3:7 He clearly gives help to the seed of Abraham.
He redeemed us in order that the blessing given to Abraham might come to the Gentiles through faith in Christ Jesus; Gal 3:14
For the Lord is your life, and He will give you the blessing He swore to give to your fathers, Abraham... Deut 30:20
You will show love to Abraham, as you pledged on oath in days long ago. Micah 7:18-20
All who see them will acknowledge that they are a people the Lord has blessed.
I delight greatly in the Lord; my soul rejoices in my God. For he has clothed me with garments of salvation; Isaiah 61:9-10

This is like talking to a brick wall. I already told you that a Jew is one inwardly. Romans 2:29
There is neither Jew nor Gentile... for you are all one in Christ Jesus. Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise. Gal 3

John, the " Galatians " are Greek NOT Hebrews/Jews...

 

[JonHawk]

"This one was born in Zion."

Isa 29:8 It will be like a hungry man dreaming he's eating; but when he wakes up, his stomach is empty; or like a thirsty man dreaming he's drinking; but when he wakes up, he is dry and exhausted - it will be like this for the horde of all nations fighting against Mount Tziyon.

Indeed, of Zion it will be said, “This one and that one were born in her, and the Most High himself will establish her. Psalm 87:5
The Lord reigns forever, your God, O Zion, for all generations. Praise the Lord. Psalm 146:10
Sing the praises of the Lord, enthroned in Zion; proclaim among the nations what He has done. Psalm 9:11
How beautiful on the mountains are the feet of those who bring good news, who proclaim peace, who bring good tidings, who proclaim salvation, who say to Zion, “Your God reigns!” Isaiah 52:7

 

[rossh]

JonHawk said:
Because those who have faith are children of Abraham. Gal 3:7 He clearly gives help to the seed of Abraham.
He redeemed us in order that the blessing given to Abraham might come to the Gentiles through faith in Christ Jesus; Gal 3:14
For the Lord is your life, and He will give you the blessing He swore to give to your fathers, Abraham... Deut 30:20
You will show love to Abraham, as you pledged on oath in days long ago. Micah 7:18-20
All who see them will acknowledge that they are a people the Lord has blessed.
I delight greatly in the Lord; my soul rejoices in my God. For he has clothed me with garments of salvation; Isaiah 61:9-10

This is like talking to a brick wall. I already told you that a Jew is one inwardly. Romans 2:29
There is neither Jew nor Gentile... for you are all one in Christ Jesus. Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise. Gal 3

Yes indeed and I am convinced that you do talk to brick walls, but, do they respond to you all, give you well earned and needed advice which you pass on to us here at CARM ? Should we all be grateful for having you here with us ?
I have now been waiting 3 weeks for you mention YOUR POINT in all of this verse quoting ?
Why do you insist on thinking that, ONLY YOU, know and can quote Scripture to us ?
Yes you have annoyed us all to death quoting that passage but never attempted to offer any explanation what so ever,, not wishing to be a " name caller " but, you appear to be a " one verse wonder " like the cultists are, I do hope I am wrong on that..
I already told you that a Jew is one inwardly.
I already told you that a Jew is one inwardly.
So HOW is one a Jew " inwardly " as YOU define this greatly inspired word of wisdom ?

Romans 2:25 For circumcision is indeed of value if you do what Torah says. But if you are a transgressor of Torah, your circumcision has become uncircumcision! 26 Therefore, if an uncircumcised man keeps the righteous requirements of the Torah, won't his uncircumcision be counted as circumcision? 27 Indeed, the man who is physically uncircumcised but obeys the Torah will stand as a judgment on you who have had a b'rit-milah and have Torah written out but violate it! 28 For the real Jew is not merely Jewish outwardly: true circumcision is not only external and physical. 29 On the contrary, the real Jew is one inwardly; and true circumcision is of the heart, spiritual not literal; so that his praise comes not from other people but from God.
,, so what is your point ? you have omitted the bulk and the essence/message of the above passage with squabbling, over your own nonsense..