Calvinism and Determinism

fltom

Well-known member
He's trying to say we teach God caused the evil in the world and is thus the author of evil, and is now trying to clean up His mess. Yes, it is more silliness.
Do you not teach God meticulously determines all things

If that is your theology you need to own it

If God determines all thing he determined sin - every sin ever committed

So are you not a determinist?
 

Reformedguy

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Do you not teach God meticulously determines all things

If that is your theology you need to own it

If God determines all thing he determined sin - every sin ever committed

So are you not a determinist?
Yup, you are correct. God has a plan on how history will unfold. That history includes sin and evil. Evil and sin are necessary. How would you know God is good if there were no evil in the world? How woukd you understand light if darkness did not exist.
 

fltom

Well-known member
Yup, you are correct. God has a plan on how history will unfold. That history includes sin and evil. Evil and sin are necessary. How would you know God is good if there were no evil in the world? How woukd you understand light if darkness did not exist.
So God must therefore redeem at least some of his own determinations
 

Reformedguy

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Your lack of understanding is due to a failure to read

as this has been explained twice
Because you attempted to explain it does not mean its comprehensible. Lol. Your point is silly and desperate. Your here to fight and nothing more. You go to any extreme to claim victory including lying and misrepresenting your opponents position. You continually use the same strawman arguments such as "God believes for you" stupidity. Your intentions here are not gracious and to debate these things charitably. You wish to sow discord. I have been implored to simply ignore you for these reasons. I think it's best to do so. Take care and God bless.
 

fltom

Well-known member
Because you attempted to explain it does not mean its comprehensible. Lol. Your point is silly and desperate. Your here to fight and nothing more. You go to any extreme to claim victory including lying and misrepresenting your opponents position. You continually use the same strawman arguments such as "God believes for you" stupidity. Your intentions here are not gracious and to debate these things charitably. You wish to sow discord. I have been implored to simply ignore you for these reasons. I think it's best to do so. Take care and God bless.
Sorry but if there is a liar here it is you

You constantly ignore scripture and just repeat your views

and when you are not ignoring it you delete it or add to it

Your post are filled with name calling and falsehoods and out of context third party guilt by association tactics

Noting that God does not believe for you addresses the idea man is not responsible for believing, denying it

Its a joke you talk about graciousness and charity

for your posts are totally lacking in both

Glad to see you go bye
 
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