Calvinism and Determinism

He's trying to say we teach God caused the evil in the world and is thus the author of evil, and is now trying to clean up His mess. Yes, it is more silliness.
Do you not teach God meticulously determines all things

If that is your theology you need to own it

If God determines all thing he determined sin - every sin ever committed

So are you not a determinist?
 
Do you not teach God meticulously determines all things

If that is your theology you need to own it

If God determines all thing he determined sin - every sin ever committed

So are you not a determinist?
Yup, you are correct. God has a plan on how history will unfold. That history includes sin and evil. Evil and sin are necessary. How would you know God is good if there were no evil in the world? How woukd you understand light if darkness did not exist.
 
Yup, you are correct. God has a plan on how history will unfold. That history includes sin and evil. Evil and sin are necessary. How would you know God is good if there were no evil in the world? How woukd you understand light if darkness did not exist.
So God must therefore redeem at least some of his own determinations
 
Your lack of understanding is due to a failure to read

as this has been explained twice
Because you attempted to explain it does not mean its comprehensible. Lol. Your point is silly and desperate. Your here to fight and nothing more. You go to any extreme to claim victory including lying and misrepresenting your opponents position. You continually use the same strawman arguments such as "God believes for you" stupidity. Your intentions here are not gracious and to debate these things charitably. You wish to sow discord. I have been implored to simply ignore you for these reasons. I think it's best to do so. Take care and God bless.
 
Because you attempted to explain it does not mean its comprehensible. Lol. Your point is silly and desperate. Your here to fight and nothing more. You go to any extreme to claim victory including lying and misrepresenting your opponents position. You continually use the same strawman arguments such as "God believes for you" stupidity. Your intentions here are not gracious and to debate these things charitably. You wish to sow discord. I have been implored to simply ignore you for these reasons. I think it's best to do so. Take care and God bless.
Sorry but if there is a liar here it is you

You constantly ignore scripture and just repeat your views

and when you are not ignoring it you delete it or add to it

Your post are filled with name calling and falsehoods and out of context third party guilt by association tactics

Noting that God does not believe for you addresses the idea man is not responsible for believing, denying it

Its a joke you talk about graciousness and charity

for your posts are totally lacking in both

Glad to see you go bye
 
God's decision that Adam of his own will would rebel, thus causing his posterity to be condemned along with his sin, and then within that same decision to save some of his rebellious posterity by sending His Son to redeem them and be their head-representative is not the same as what you're trying to drive; that God made a poor decision and then He must clean-up after Himself because He made a poor one.

We know that Jesus Christ is the Lamb slain before the world was formed. This means the decision for Adam's rebellion was calculated and purposed and so was sending Christ to redeem and become the new head-representative for some of Adam's posterity.
Praise God for His delivering you brother. It seems He was working on both of us around the same time-frame. :)
 
God's decision that Adam of his own will would rebel, thus causing his posterity to be condemned along with his sin, and then within that same decision to save some of his rebellious posterity by sending His Son to redeem them and be their head-representative is not the same as what you're trying to drive; that God made a poor decision and then He must clean-up after Himself because He made a poor one.

God redeeming his own determination

That is what Calvinism leads to
 
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