Calvinist Historian Herman Bavinck

[guest1]

Lol firewood is fatalism no ifs ands or buts about it . Created for hell, firewood 🪵. No choice, no chance - the polar opposite of love, it’s hate.

 

[Reformedguy]

Lol firewood is fatalism no ifs ands or buts about it . Created for hell, firewood 🪵. No choice, no chance - the polar opposite of love, it’s hate.

From team Pelagius point of view, could you define fatalism for us?

 

[guest1]

Websters has the definition spot on- calvinism is fatalism. calvinism is actually hyper-fatalism since its not only events its people.

Definition: a doctrine that events are fixed in advance so that human beings are powerless to change them

conclusion: once again I'm correct. oops. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fatalism

yours truly, team TRUTH

hope this helps !!!

 

[Reformedguy]

Websters has the definition spot on- calvinism is fatalism. calvinism is actually hyper-fatalism since its not only events its people.

Definition: a doctrine that events are fixed in advance so that human beings are powerless to change them

conclusion: once again I'm correct. oops. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fatalism

hope this helps !

Fatalism is impersonal. Divine determinism is not. OPPS

hope this helps

Whose next??

 

[guest1]

Team Truth corrects the fallacious arguments once again- oops

stanford edu-https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/fatalism/

Though the word “fatalism” is commonly used to refer to an attitude of resignation in the face of some future event or events which are thought to be inevitable, philosophers usually use the word to refer to the view that we are powerless to do anything other than what we actually do.

Yours Truly, Team Truth

hope this helps !!!

 

[guest1]

🍿 🥱🦗

 

[Reformedguy]

Team Truth corrects the fallacious arguments once again- oops

stanford edu-https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/fatalism/

Though the word “fatalism” is commonly used to refer to an attitude of resignation in the face of some future event or events which are thought to be inevitable, philosophers usually use the word to refer to the view that we are powerless to do anything other than what we actually do.

Yours Truly, Team Truth

hope this helps !!!

Fatalism is impersonal. Divine determinism is not. OPPS

hope this helps

Whose next?

 

[Howie]

Fatalism is not determinism. Category error

You're right.

 

[fltom]

Fatalism is not determinism. Category error

determinism is certainly fatalistic

your error

 

[Reformedguy]

determinism is certainly fatalistic

your error

Fatalism is impersonal and determinism is not. Your mistake in thinking otherwise. Team Pelagius not faring so well.

 

[guest1]

determinism is certainly fatalistic

your error

Team Truth corrects the fallacious arguments once again- oops - fatalism is about people.

stanford edu-https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/fatalism/

Though the word “fatalism” is commonly used to refer to an attitude of resignation in the face of some future event or events which are thought to be inevitable, philosophers usually use the word to refer to the view that we are powerless to do anything other than what we actually do.

Yours Truly, Team Truth

hope this helps !!!

 

[fltom]

Team Truth corrects the fallacious arguments once again- oops - fatalism is about people.

stanford edu-https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/fatalism/

Though the word “fatalism” is commonly used to refer to an attitude of resignation in the face of some future event or events which are thought to be inevitable, philosophers usually use the word to refer to the view that we are powerless to do anything other than what we actually do.

Yours Truly, Team Truth

hope this helps !!!

Determination clearly fits the bill

 

[guest1]

Determination clearly fits the bill

Yes everyone can see that for sure .

 

[fltom]

Yes everyone can see that for sure .

They certainly should

 

[Theo1689]

Yes everyone can see that for sure .

You don't speak for "eveyone".
There are millions who disagree with you.
But far be it from me to bother you with reality.

 

[guest1]

Websters has the definition spot on- calvinism is fatalism. calvinism is actually hyper-fatalism since its not only events its people.

Definition: a doctrine that events are fixed in advance so that human beings are powerless to change them

conclusion: once again I'm correct. oops. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fatalism

yours truly, team TRUTH

hope this helps !!!

Truth above ☝️

 

[Howie]

Truth above ☝️

Clueless as to the difference between fatalism, and the God of Purpose and Design.

That's what happens when you're a Roman Catholic who relies on Webster's to wrongly inform you of theological things ... LOL

@Chalcedon should not be teaching.

 

[Our Lord's God]

Clueless as to the difference between fatalism, and the God of Purpose and Design.

That's what happens when you're a Roman Catholic who relies on Webster's to wrongly inform you of theological things ... LOL

@Chalcedon should not be teaching.

Fatalism: a doctrine that events are fixed in advance so that human beings are powerless to change them
Merriam Webster

From all eternity and by the completely wise and holy purpose of his own will, God has freely and unchangeably ordained whatever happens.
Westminster Confession

 

[guest1]

Tu quoque as expected when one cannot defend their beliefs .

Yours Truly, Team Truth !

Hope this helps !!!

 

[guest1]

Fatalism: a doctrine that events are fixed in advance so that human beings are powerless to change them
Merriam Webster

From all eternity and by the completely wise and holy purpose of his own will, God has freely and unchangeably ordained whatever happens.
Westminster Confession

Exactly !

It’s funny to watch Calvinists deny Calvinism , it’s like a monotheist denying One God . Oh the irony.