Calvinist Historian Herman Bavinck

Howie

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Fatalism: a doctrine that events are fixed in advance so that human beings are powerless to change them
Merriam Webster

From all eternity and by the completely wise and holy purpose of his own will, God has freely and unchangeably ordained whatever happens.
Westminster Confession
God is a purposeful God. What He determines has a purpose, unlike the "fates."

WCF is echoing God (Is 46:10).
 

Howie

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We weren't talking about fates.
C'mon. From where do you think fatalism originally got its name? Not from a connection with the God of the universe who is purposeful.

You are not well informed. Have you attended government schools your entire life?
We are talking about fatalism, a doctrine that events are fixed in advance so that human beings are powerless to change them.
Again, what God does is purposed and purposeful; it is not fate. This is what happens when you rely on secularists, such as @Chalcedon and Webster's dictionary to define God, and the terms of your theology for you -- utter confusion and VERY, VERY BAD THEOLOGY.
 

Our Lord's God

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C'mon. From where do you think fatalism originally got its name? Not from a connection with the God of the universe who is purposeful.

You are not well informed. Have you attended government schools your entire life?

Again, what God does is purposed and purposeful; it is not fate. This is what happens when you rely on secularists, such as @Chalcedon and Webster's dictionary to define God, and the terms of your theology for you -- utter confusion and VERY, VERY BAD THEOLOGY.

Your post is stunningly ignorant. You don't get to define words however you like to suit yourself. The cause of fixed events is irrelevant to its definition.

Fatalism by definition is the belief that everything that occurs was destined to occur. You have one form of fatalism, other pagans have another.
 

Howie

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Your post is stunningly ignorant.
You're projecting again.

You don't get to define words however you like to suit yourself.
Neither does Webster get to define wordd to suit itself. That is why, unlike your theology, my theology is Biblical and not, VERY, VERY BAD THEOLOGY as yours is.

Also, YOU don't define theological terms FROM WEBSTER FOR BELIEVERS. but only for yourself

Fatalism by definition is the belief that everything that occurs was destined to occur.
Not in Christianity it isn't, but in false Christianity, it is.

You did go to public school your entire life, didn't you?
 

Howie

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Calvinists somehow think that if God establishes their FATE then it is no longer FATE.
False Christians, refuse to acknowledge that God's determinations have nothing to do with the fates. Probably because they've never before heard of "the fates."
FATE: the development of events beyond a person's control, regarded as determined by a supernatural power.
"Supernatural power" is akin to what AA calls their god who doesn't exist.

You secularists are creeping into the church, as prophesied you would -- wolves in sheeps clothing 🤔
 

Howie

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apologetics for some means- projecting , conflating , equivocating , conjecture , ad hominens , causing divisions , slandering , smearing others and Emojis as their defense . See Matt 23,
And for secular pseudo-Christians, apologetics means attacking and rewriting history while denying the fact they have VERY VERY BAD, FALSE THEOLOGY.
 

Our Lord's God

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You're projecting again.


Neither does Webster get to define wordd to suit itself. That is why, unlike your theology, my theology is Biblical and not, VERY, VERY BAD THEOLOGY as yours is.

Also, YOU don't define theological terms FROM WEBSTER FOR BELIEVERS. but only for yourself


Not in Christianity it isn't, but in false Christianity, it is.

You did go to public school your entire life, didn't you?

Tell us where you got your definitions of "fate" and "fatalism."
 
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