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[treeplanter]

A need is a necessity. A necessity implies answerability to something or someone. God answers to no one.

Your question is as dumb as:

Does a rock falling from a mountain need to fall or does it fall needlessly?

The answer: Neither.

Your words:
"A need is a necessity. A necessity implies answerability to something or someone. God answers to no one."
So, according to the above, your answer is that God NEEDLESSLY drowned babies in the process of saving and resurrecting them

but then you turn around and claim that God drowning babies by process of drowning them was neither NEEDED nor NEEDLESS...

Why don't you behave like an adult and answer the question?

Did God NEED to drown babies in order to save and resurrect them
OR
Did God NEEDLESSLY choose to save and resurrect babies by the harmful means of drowning them???

 

[stiggy wiggy]

Your words:
"A need is a necessity. A necessity implies answerability to something or someone. God answers to no one."
So, according to the above, your answer is that God NEEDLESSLY drowned babies in the process of saving and resurrecting them

but then you turn around and claim that God drowning babies by process of drowning them was neither NEEDED nor NEEDLESS

Correct. Then I said:

Your question is as dumb as:

Does a rock falling from a mountain need to fall or does it fall needlessly?

The answer: Neither.

 

[Furion]

No, the nauseating, repetetive debate between Treeplanter and stiggy wiggy continues because stiggy wiggy won't man up and answer Treeplanter's questions...because he knows his beliefs would be exposed if he did.

Tree planter has question?

 

[stiggy wiggy]

Tree planter has question?

He's wondering if he'll get this job:

The Arborist Applies for a Job at a Lawn & Garden Nursery

NURSERY HUMAN RESOURCE MANAGER: So, Mr. Planter. You wish to join our company to cultivate saplings. ARBORIST: YES! NHRM: We always like to ask our potential employees this question: "What do you see as your strong points and your weak points?" ARB: WELL, AS FAR AS MY STRONG POINTS...

forums.carm.org

 

[treeplanter]

He's wondering if he'll get this job:

The Arborist Applies for a Job at a Lawn & Garden Nursery

NURSERY HUMAN RESOURCE MANAGER: So, Mr. Planter. You wish to join our company to cultivate saplings. ARBORIST: YES! NHRM: We always like to ask our potential employees this question: "What do you see as your strong points and your weak points?" ARB: WELL, AS FAR AS MY STRONG POINTS...

forums.carm.org

Look at you - working hard to promote a lame OP that, obviously, no one has any interest in...

 

[treeplanter]

Correct. Then I said:

Your question is as dumb as:

Does a rock falling from a mountain need to fall or does it fall needlessly?

The answer: Neither.

Did God NEED to drown babies in order to save and resurrect them
OR
Did God NEEDLESSLY choose to save and resurrect babies by the harmful means of drowning them?

It has to be one or the other, stiggy

Which is it?

 

[treeplanter]

Tree planter has question?

Stiggy has been asserting for years that God drowned babies in the Great Flood in order to save them from this fallen world and resurrect them to a better one

Either God NEEDED to save and resurrect those babies by means of drowning them because He was incapable of saving and resurrecting them by any other means

OR

God could have saved and resurrected those babies by other means, but NEEDLESSLY chose to do so by the harmful means of drowning them


It has to be one or the other, Jimmy!

Stiggy is too spineless to offer an answer
Have you a backbone?

What say you?

Was it NEEDED
or
Was it NEEDLESS?

 

[stiggy wiggy]

Look at you - working hard to promote a lame OP that, obviously, no one has any interest in...

There will be more to come in that thread as we monitor your progress in trying to obtain that job. Meanwhile, as you anxiously await word from Human Resources try not the needlessly drown yourself in thoughts of rejection.

 

[stiggy wiggy]

Stiggy is too spineless to offer an answer

Posts 129 and 130, I repeat:

A need is a necessity. A necessity implies answerability to something or someone. God answers to no one.

Your question is as dumb as:

Does a rock falling from a mountain need to fall or does it fall needlessly?

The answer: Neither.

 

[stiggy wiggy]

Did God NEED to drown babies in order to save and resurrect them
OR
Did God NEEDLESSLY choose to save and resurrect babies by the harmful means of drowning them?

It has to be one or the other, stiggy

Which is it?

A need is a necessity. A necessity implies answerability to something or someone. God answers to no one.

Your question is as dumb as:

Does a rock falling from a mountain need to fall or does it fall needlessly?

The answer: Neither.

 

[treeplanter]

There will be more to come in that thread as we monitor your progress in trying to obtain that job. Meanwhile, as you anxiously await word from Human Resources try not the needlessly drown yourself in thoughts of rejection.

Did God NEED to save and resurrect those babies by means of drowning them because He was incapable of saving and resurrecting them by any other means

OR

Could God have saved and resurrected those babies by other means, but NEEDLESSLY chose to do so by the harmful means of drowning them???

 

[stiggy wiggy]

Did God NEED to save and resurrect those babies by means of drowning them because He was incapable of saving and resurrecting them by any other means

OR

Could God have saved and resurrected those babies by other means, but NEEDLESSLY chose to do so by the harmful means of drowning them???

A need is a necessity. A necessity implies answerability to something or someone. God answers to no one.

Your question is as dumb as:

Does a rock falling from a mountain need to fall or does it fall needlessly?

The answer: Neither.

 

[treeplanter]

A need is a necessity. A necessity implies answerability to something or someone. God answers to no one.

Your question is as dumb as:

Does a rock falling from a mountain need to fall or does it fall needlessly?

The answer: Neither.

A need is a necessity - a necessity implies answerability to something or someone - God answers to no one

Great, then God NEEDLESSLY chose to drown babies and, like you have acknowledged previously, only an evil being would needlessly drown babies

 

[stiggy wiggy]

God answers to no one

Correct, especially not to you.

And neither does a rock. So to reiterate:

A need is a necessity. A necessity implies answerability to something or someone. God answers to no one.

Your question is as dumb as:

Does a rock falling from a mountain need to fall or does it fall needlessly?

The answer: Neither.

 

[treeplanter]

Correct, especially not to you.

And neither does a rock. So to reiterate:

A need is a necessity. A necessity implies answerability to something or someone. God answers to no one.

Your question is as dumb as:

Does a rock falling from a mountain need to fall or does it fall needlessly?

The answer: Neither.

If God answers to no one and nothing then He was NOT required to save and resurrect babies by means of drowning them

If God was NOT required to save and resurrect babies by means of drowning them then He consciously, purposefully, and NEEDLESSLY chose drowning as the means by which to save and resurrect babies

To consciously and purposefully inflict needless harm {such as drowning} upon others is immoral

 

[treeplanter]

The answer: Neither.

Neither is not a valid answer!

IF God saved babies from this fallen world and resurrected them to a better one by means of drowning them during the Great Flood

{which is what you have been maintaining for years}


Then there can be only two possibilities!


1. God saved and resurrected these babies by means of drowning them because He was not able to do so by any other means

{in which case the harm was NEEDED}


or


2. God consciously and purposefully chose to inflict the unnecessary harm of drowning as the means by which to save and resurrect these babies even though He could just as easily have chosen non-harmful means

{in which case the harm was NEEDLESS}


Which is it, stiggy?


Was the harm NEEDED?
{in which case God is inept}


OR


Was the harm NEEDLESS?
{in which case God is immoral}


What's your poison, stigs?

 

[stiggy wiggy]

If God answers to no one and nothing then He was NOT required to save and resurrect babies by means of drowning them

If God was NOT required to save and resurrect babies by means of drowning them then He consciously, purposefully, and NEEDLESSLY chose drowning as the means by which to save and resurrect babies

To consciously and purposefully inflict needless harm {such as drowning} upon others is immoral

Could you repeat that?

 

[stiggy wiggy]

What's your poison, stigs?

Lotus.

 

[treeplanter]

Could you repeat that?

Sure

If God answers to no one and nothing then He was NOT required to save and resurrect babies by means of drowning them

If God was NOT required to save and resurrect babies by means of drowning them then He consciously, purposefully, and NEEDLESSLY chose drowning as the means by which to save and resurrect babies

And, to consciously and purposefully inflict needless harm {such as drowning} upon others is immoral



Can you answer now?

Was the drowning NEEDED or was it NEEDLESS?

 

[stiggy wiggy]

Sure.

That wasn't a complete sentence. I fixed it for you.