Changes in the King James Version

Conan

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Changes in the King James Version​


2. MINOR ALTERATIONS OF THE TEXT​



* Mat 3:12 Add he before will burn up. Rejected by Scrivener.

Mat 6:3 Add hand after right. Approved by Scrivener.
* Mat 9:34 Omit the before devils.
* Mat 12:23 Add not before this the son.
* Mat 13:6 Read had no root instead of had not root.

Mat 16:16 Add the before Christ.

Mat 16:19 Add and before whatsoever thou shalt loose.

Mat 26:75 Read word instead of words.

Mat 27:22 Read Pilate saith instead of Pilate said.
* Mat 27:52 Add the before saints.

Mark 2:4 Add the before press.

Mark 5:6 Read he ran instead of he came.
* Mark 6:7 Read he called instead of he calleth.
* Mark 6:53 Read Gennesaret instead of Genesareth. 1611 followed another source. 1769: S B E. 1611: Er Vul.

Mark 10:18 Read [there is] none good but one instead of there is no man good, but one.

Mark 11:8 Read branches off the trees instead of branches of the trees.

Luke 1:3 Add all before things.

Luke 1:74 Read hand instead of hands.

Luke 3:21 Omit and before it came to pass.
* Luke 8:8 Add had before said.
* Luke 11:16 Read others instead of other.

Luke 17:34 Add and before the other shall be left.
* Luke 18:9 Read others instead of other.

Luke 19:9 Read a son of Abraham instead of the son of Abraham.

Luke 20:12 Read sent a third instead of sent the third.

Luke 23:19 Read cast into prison instead of cast in prison.

John 5:18 Transpose not only because he to because he not only.

John 7:16 Add and said after Jesus answered them.

John 8:30 Read these words instead of those words.

John 11:3 Read his sisters instead of his sister.
* John 11:34 Read They said unto him instead of They say unto him.

John 12:22 Read tell Jesus instead of told Jesus.

John 15:20 Read than his lord instead of than the Lord.
* John 16:25 Add but before the time. 1611 followed another source. 1769: S B E. 1611: Er Vul.

John 21:17 Read He saith unto him instead of he said unto him.

Acts 2:22 Add and before wonders.
* Acts 5:34 Add the before law.

Acts 7:35 Read by the hand instead of by the hands.

Acts 8:32 Read his shearer instead of the shearer.
* Acts 10:9 Add top after upon the house.
* Acts 18:5 Add the before spirit.
* Acts 19:19 Transpose also of them to of them also.
* Acts 24:14 Add in before the prophets.

Acts 24:24 Read Jewess instead of Jew.

Acts 27:18 Read And we being exceedingly tossed with a tempest, the next [day] instead of And being exceedingly tossed with a tempest the next day.

Rom 3:24 Read Christ Jesus instead of Jesus Christ.

Rom 4:12 Add who before also walk.

Rom 6:12 Transpose reign therefore to therefore reign.
* Rom 7:2 Read law of her husband instead of law of the husband.

Rom 7:13 Transpose Was that then to Was then that.

Rom 11:28 Read for your sakes instead of for your sake.

Rom 12:2 Read and acceptable instead of that acceptable.

Rom 14:6 Read regardeth the day instead of regardeth a day.

Rom 14:10 Add for before we shall all stand.
* 1 Cor 4:9 Read appointed to death instead of approved to death.

1 Cor 7:32 Read things that belong instead of things that belongeth.

1 Cor 10:28 Add for before the earth is.

1 Cor 12:28 Read helps, governments instead of helps in governments.
* 1 Cor 13:2 Read have not charity instead of have no charity.
* 1 Cor 14:15 Add I before will pray.
* 1 Cor 14:18 Read than ye all instead of than you all.

1 Cor 14:23 Read one place instead of some place.

1 Cor 15:6 Read After that instead of And that.

1 Cor 15:41 Read and another glory of the moon instead of another of the moon.

1 Cor 15:48 Add also before that are earthy.

1 Cor 16:22 Read anathema, Maranatha instead of Anathema Maranatha.
* 2 Cor 5:1 Read made with hands instead of made with hand.

2 Cor 5:2 Read groan, earnestly desiring instead of groan earnestly, desiring.

2 Cor 5:20 Omit that before be ye reconciled.

2 Cor 8:21 Add also before in the sight.

2 Cor 9:5 Add and before not.

2 Cor 9:5 Add as before of covetousness.

2 Cor 9:6 Add also after reap twice.

2 Cor 11:26 Read journeyings instead of journeying.

2 Cor 11:32 Add of the Damascenes after the city.
* Gal Title Add the Apostle before to the Galatians. 1611 followed another source. 1769: E. 1611: S.

Gal 3:13 Add a before tree.
* Gal 5:15 Add that after take heed.
* Eph 1:9 Read hath purposed instead of had purposed.

Eph 4:24 Read the new man instead of that new man.
* Eph 6:24 Add Amen at end of verse. 1611 followed another source. 1769: S E. 1611: Vul.

Phil 4:6 Read requests instead of request.

2 Th 2:14 Read our Lord Jesus Christ instead of the Lord Jesus Christ.

1 Tim 1:4 Add godly before edifying.
* 1 Tim 2:9 Read shamefacedness instead of shamefastness.

2 Tim 1:7 Add and before of love.
* 2 Tim 1:12 Omit I before am persuaded.

2 Tim 2:19 Read this seal instead of the seal.

2 Tim 4:8 Add all before them also.

2 Tim 4:13 Add and the books after bring [with thee].

Heb 3:10 Read their heart instead of their hearts.

Heb 8:8 Add with before the house of Judah.

Heb 11:23 Add were before not afraid.

Heb 12:1 Omit unto before the race.

James 5:2 Add are before motheaten.

1 Pet 2:1 Add all before evil speakings.

1 Pet 2:5 Read sacrifices instead of sacrifice.

1 Pet 2:6 Add also after Wherefore.
* 1 Pet 5:10 Read called us unto instead of called us into.

1 John 2:16 Add and before the lust of the eyes.
* 1 John 3:17 Read have need instead of hath need.

1 John 5:12 Add of God after hath not the Son.

Jude 1:25 Add both before now and ever.

Rev 1:4 Add which are before in Asia.

Rev 1:11 Add unto before Philadelphia.

Rev 5:13 Add and before honour.

Rev 5:13 Add and before glory.

Rev 12:14 Read fly instead of flee.

Rev 13:6
* Rev 17:4
 

logos1560

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Many KJV-only advocates seem to close their eyes to such verifiable facts. Here is what some KJV-only authors have claimed.

Concerning the Open Bible edition of the KJV, Dave Reese claimed: "If words are changed, it is not the King James Version. It is another Bible" (The Book No One Can Read, p. 56). Concerning the New Scofield, Dave Reese asserted: “If words are changed, it is not the same text” (p. 53). Jim Ellis asked: "How could it be a King James Bible if it is different from the King James Bible?" (Only Two Bibles, p. 17). Attacking the idea that the New Scofield Reference Bible has the same basic text as the KJV, William Grady contended: "A lost man would laugh at the suggestion that a particular text could be promoted as the same text with even one alteration" (Final Authority, p. 311). Kelly Gallagher claimed: “Any true Christian would throw away a bible if ONE WORD was taken away or added to it” (The Perfect Bible, p. 58). David W. Norris asserted: “Bearing in mind that every single word carries with it the authority of the whole book and were one word missing the Bible would be incomplete and imperfect, we ought not to be surprised that subtracting of even a single word put in place by God or adding a word of our own incurs a penalty of eternal loss” (The Big Picture, pp. 260-261).

Al Lacy contended: “If it [a Bible translation] has even ONE error, it is NOT the Word of TRUTH! You cannot trust it” (Can I Trust, p. 99). Al Lacy asserted: “If we do not have a perfect translation, we do not HAVE the Scriptures” (p. 101). Sam Gipp maintained that the KJV “only needs one mistake to cease to be the perfect, inspired word of God” (Is Our English Bible, p. 73). Raymond Blanton claimed: “If I cannot believe every word in the King James Version I cannot believe one word in it” (The Perilous Times, August, 1993, p. 13) and again he claimed: “If we cannot believe every word in it [the KJV], we cannot believe one word in it” (November, 1999, p. 5). Jack Hyles asserted: “Do you mean if there is just one word wrong in the Bible, you have to throw everything else away?’ That’s exactly what I mean” (Need for an Every-Word Bible, p. 39). Charles Perkins wrote: "Personally I cannot find anything ‘Godly’ about changing even one word in the King James Bible" (Flaming Torch, April-June, 1998, p. 7).

In 1980, John C. Phillips asserted: “There is no need to revise, update, correct, better explain, or change in any way, the present King James Bible” (King James Contender, Nov.-Dec., 1980, p. 2). Len Smith wrote: “Be careful if you go buy a King James Version. The publishers will deceitfully call some of them Authorized Versions without letting you know they’ve changed some of the words, some of the spelling, and some of the capitalization” (Age of Reason, D22, p. 9). Len Smith even asserted: “If the old spelling of throughly has been modernized to thoroughly it’s because some fool dared to go through the word of God and mess with it” (Ibid.). Mickey Carter wrote: “Some Bible publishers will print what on the cover reads ‘King James Version,‘ yet without any warning anywhere make changes on the inside” (Things that are Different, p. 90). Concerning the Open Bible edition of the KJV, D. A. Waite wrote: “I came to some words that were spelled differently so I couldn’t make a true comparison” (Defending the KJB, p. 231). E. W. Whitten claimed: “If any variance or inconsistency can be found in the truth, or version, the entire article is tainted and no longer has any credibility” (Truth, p. 35). David Norris contended that “even revising or changing it [the A.V.] in any way will have the same effect” as “debasing the currency,” and he added: “It is robbery” (Big Picture, p. 230). Terence McLean asserted: “If you would change one word (Easter), you are on the slippery slope to total infidelity toward God’s words” (History of Your Bible, p. 12). Bill Bradley asked: "Would you allow someone to take your King James Bible and change it in more than 130 places, and still call it a King James Bible?" (Mickey Carter, Elephant, p. 142). As a chapter heading, David Daniels claimed: “A few tiny changes make a big difference” (51 Reasons, p. 143). Roy Branson asserted: “The author does not believe anyone has ever improved upon the wording of the KJV in any instance, nor that it can be improved upon” (KJV 1611, p. 96).
 

imJRR

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logos - a question concerning the quotes above: WHICH KJV are the authors referring to??
I mean - the KJV used today is not the original 1611.
So - Which KJV is being pointed to?
The one writer speaks of "no need to change in any way the present KJV".
And some are saying that includes how words are spelled.
But the KJV that they are reading WAS changed from the 1611 - including the spelling of words.

I'm honestly not trying to appear overly simple here.
But for crying out loud - These quotes are not just extreme; they're extremely nonsensical.
 

logos1560

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logos - a question concerning the quotes above: WHICH KJV are the authors referring to??
I mean - the KJV used today is not the original 1611.
So - Which KJV is being pointed to?

KJV-only authors do not always say to which specific KJV they refer. Some of them even suggest or claim that the present KJV is the same as the 1611. Others would suggest that the present KJV is the 1769 edition. They do not seem to think through their own statements and do not apply them consistently and justly. According to some of their own statements, the 1611 KJV would be a different Bible than the 1769 KJV, and present post-1900 KJV editions would also be a different Bible than the 1769 and the 1611. They are uninformed and misinformed.

Ed DeVries wrote: “Buy a KJV at any bookstore and compare it to a KJV from 1611 and you will see that EVERY word is the same” (Divinely Inspired, Inerrantly Preserved, p. 66). Ed DeVries maintained that "none of the 'revisions' of the KJV between 1611 and 1769 resulted in the addition, subtraction, and or replacement of one word" (p. 67). Likewise, James M. Rasbeary asserted: “The King James Bibles we use today are the same as those first published in 1611” (What’s Wrong with the Old Black Book, p. 82). David W. Daniels claimed: “The simple fact is that the King James Bible you can purchase in almost any bookstore, allowing for changes in spelling (and possibly the two printing errors), is the same Book of God’s preserved words that was printed in 1611” (Answers to your Bible Version Questions, p. 128). Evangelist William Bradley contended that "the King James Bible printed in 1611 reads the same as the King James Bible printed in 1997" (Purified Seven Times, p. 115). William Bradley claimed: "The text of the Bible has remained unchanged from 1611 till today" (To All Generations, p. 71). Kelly Gallagher contended: “The sound and words of the King James is as the 1611 original. This writer has examined both and they are the same except for font style and spelling changes” (Perfect Bible, p. 21). Kelly Gallagher claimed: “The King James Bible we have today is substantially the same as the one completed in 1611” (p. 64). Alan O’Reilly declared: “Subsequent Editions of the AV1611 differ from the 1611 Edition only in matters of spelling, punctuation and Italics, where obviously variation is possible without discrepancy. Allowing for correction of typographical errors by later Editions, the actual TEXT of any AV1611 available today is the same as that of 1611” (O Biblios, p. 2). D. A. Waite asserted: “The fact of the matter is that the present King James Bible is substantially (almost 100%) identical with the original 1611” (Fundamentalist Mis-Information, p. 53). Waite wrote: “We don’t have to be worried about the changes since 1611” (p. 91). David Cloud claimed: “From 1611 until the end of the 19th century, only minor changes were made in the English Bible, largely spelling and grammatical changes” (Examining “the King James Only, p. 136). Mickey Carter contended “that the only changes made were in the spellings of certain words and the form of some of the letters” and that “the words were never changed” (Things That Are Different, pp. 173, 174). Raymond Blanton claimed: “The only changes we know of are spelling changes. The words are not changed” (Perilous Times, February, 2000, p. 4). G. John Rov asserted: “All versions of the King James Bible are the issue of the 1611 edition as they are the same in word and translation content, differing only in spelling modernization and type set from Gothic font to Roman text” (Concealed from Christians, p. xiv). G. John Rov claimed: “No words have been changed. If you would fluently read the 1611 KJV and a KJV purchased today, the simultaneous reading would be in tandem” (p. 79). Jack McElroy claimed: “We see the word of God being assembled until its final form as it appeared in the 1611 First Edition of the Authorized Version” (Which Bible, p. 158). In response to the question “was then the 1611 edition a completed and perfected edition”, Michael Hollner answered: “YES!” (King James Only Debate, p. 395, 2021 edition).
 
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logos1560

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The modern day KJVOs have left this view in the dust. Backsliders.
Not all modern-day KJV-only advocates have left this view. Different KJV-only advocates will make claims that would conflict with the claims of other KJV-only advocates, and sometimes they even make claims that would conflict with other of their very own claims.

A consistent, just application of KJV-only allegations concerning supposed "counterfeit KJV's" would actually make the 1611 edition and 1769 Oxford edition into counterfeit KJV's.
 

imJRR

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*bump* for e v e 21

Please respond to my request for you to provide actual substantiation for your assertion in Post #8.
 
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