Charles Taze Russell

john james

Well-known member
Some Jehovah's witnesses told me they don't have anything to do with Charles Taze Russell. Why do some Jehovah's witnesses say this yet they still believe in the same things he believed in? It seems as though they are distancing themselves from Charles Taze Russell as though they don't still believe what he believed.
 

imJRR

Well-known member
It is true that JWs nowadays do not believe some of what Russell believed/taught. He believed in the Deity of Christ (there is a quote on this board from him stating that), but also believed that Christ received his divinity after the Cross. This is not what the Bible says. However, in other areas, JWs DO believe what Russell believed/taught - such as the Holy Spirit not being a Person, but an impersonal power/force. For the JWs to say they have "nothing" to do with Russell is a falsehood.
 

Fred

Active member
Yes, I agree with you. Perhaps the JW's think Russell is correct if what he once taught is still to be believed - and he is wrong if the JW's no longer believe it (?)
 

imJRR

Well-known member
The thing is - The JW "religion" is a totalitarian, power and control system. The "regular" rank and file JWs are thralls to whatever the JW masters dictate to them. Whatever doctrinal tune the masters play, the rank and file are to receive, believe, and obey it as if it were from God - The JW masters have stated this in writing. Add to this the fact that the JW masters have also stated (in writing) that a JWs attitude (belief or not, acceptance or not, obedience or not) towards the JW masters is going to be the determining factor as to whether they receive the possibility of salvation/eternal life.
 

Fred

Active member
It is true that JWs nowadays do not believe some of what Russell believed/taught. He believed in the Deity of Christ (there is a quote on this board from him stating that), but also believed that Christ received his divinity after the Cross. This is not what the Bible says. However, in other areas, JWs DO believe what Russell believed/taught - such as the Holy Spirit not being a Person, but an impersonal power/force. For the JWs to say they have "nothing" to do with Russell is a falsehood.

Romans 9:5
Watch Tower Reprints: In resurrection, in life, in incorruptibility, in immortality, and having all authority and power in heaven and on earth, Christ is the Root of the medium of blessedness for all the nations of the earth. In the complete medium of blessedness there are natures both human and divine. In those natures there are many ranks, and from the lowest to the highest of them Christ "is over all, God blessed for ever. Amen." (The Hope of the Promise, August 15, 1892, Vol. 13, No. 16, page 1436)

Titus 2:13
Watch Tower Reprints: The Apostle speaks of our Lord Jesus as "our great God and Savior," and this is in full accord with the general teachings of the Scriptures. (Why the Christian Should Live Separate From the World, November 1, 1900, Vol. 21, No. 21, page 2726)


The teachings of the JW's today would not agree with the above.
 
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